The Christian message in Da Vinci Code
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I'm surprised others like it as much as me.Originally posted by laoda99:split personality...tot u like commandments very much
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I'd read the history that the first Church was formed in Rome and gained Rome of king,Constantine's support...perhaps i 've forgotten....Originally posted by Icemoon:I don't think Rome specifically formed any churches, but Constantine's support certainly strengthened the church.
During those times, ppl were less compassionate...selfish...unbelievable lack of righteousness....JUSTICE!
Even now...wondering...
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constantine is a saint highly revered in the eastern orthodox churchOriginally posted by Icemoon:?
shifted his capital .. erm so?
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The first church certainly wasn't formed in Rome. The earliest church was run by the Jerusalem Council of apostles, call it the Jerusalem Church.Originally posted by Owl^:I'd read the history that the first Church was formed in Rome and gained Rome of king,Constantine's support...perhaps i 've forgotten....
In fact, I suspect the church in Rome started later, after the churches in Alexandra and Antioch were established. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Furthermore, in the beginning, the church in Rome was not as important as the ones in Alexandra and Antioch.
I think it is logical also. Most Roman rulers before Constantine were unfriendly to Christians. You think the church in Rome would have an easy life? How can it thrive under the foot of the emperor? -
I'm refering to both Churches of Catholic and Christian,not jews laOriginally posted by Icemoon:The first church certainly wasn't formed in Rome. The earliest church was run by the Jerusalem Council of apostles, call it the Jerusalem Church.
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I don't think it is correct to label the early church the Church of the Jews. Like the apostle Paul said, you shouldn't let the Jewish practices stumble your faith. I don't think it is nice to deny the apostles their christian heritage.Originally posted by Owl^:I'm refering to both Churches of Catholic and Christian,not jews la
Of cos..Jews church was formed in Jerusalem...
Anyway, "churches" in other cities were already thriving before the one in Rome became famous.
Like I've said, how can you thrive under the nose of the unfriendly Roman emperor? -
Originally posted by Icemoon:The first church certainly wasn't formed in Rome. The earliest church was run by the Jerusalem Council of apostles, call it the Jerusalem Church.
In fact, I suspect the church in Rome started later, after the churches in Alexandra and Antioch were established. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Furthermore, in the beginning, the church in Rome was not as important as the ones in Alexandra and Antioch.
I think it is logical also. Most Roman rulers before Constantine were unfriendly to Christians. You think the church in Rome would have an easy life? How can it thrive under the foot of the emperor?
Huh? Edited....
Me more confusing now...
Thru i'd heard tat the First jews church was formed in jerusalem..In Rome, only a group of community of jews faiths....no church was formed at tat times
But...i'm refering to Christianity and Catholic la...which came first???
need not the answer of jews church whereabt..
Anyone correct me???
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Christianity.Originally posted by Owl^:But...i'm refering to Christianity and Catholic la...which came first???
Just think, even the Catholics wanted to be included in the Christian label. -
thanks for yr times aniway
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thanks for helping to increase ratings.Originally posted by Owl^:thanks for yr times aniway
The Christian Church came first. Period. -
wahahahahahahahahaOriginally posted by Icemoon:Christianity.
Just think, even the Catholics wanted to be included in the Christian label.
no wonder mcsquare ignore liao -
Compassion...Forgiveness...Righteous
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Well, we came first.Originally posted by Icemoon:Christianity.
Just think, even the Catholics wanted to be included in the Christian label. -
The first Christian Church to be founded was the Catholic Church. Back then, there was only one Church.Originally posted by Owl^:
Huh? Edited....
Me more confusing now...
Thru i'd heard tat the First jews church was formed in jerusalem..In Rome, only a group of community of jews faiths....no church was formed at tat times
But...i'm refering to Christianity and Catholic la...which came first???
need not the answer of jews church whereabt..
Anyone correct me???
Today the Christian 'Church', or Churches have disintergrated into several hundred different ones. But the Catholic Church remains as Christ's original deposit of faith , undeterred by evil forces, whether earthly or unearthly. -
u sure?Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:The first Christian Church to be founded was the Catholic Church. Back then, there was only one Church.
Today the Christian 'Church', or Churches have disintergrated into several hundred different ones. But the Catholic Church remains as Christ's original deposit of faith , undeterred by evil forces, whether earthly or unearthly. -
a 'Catholic Church' with Peter *not* as the leader.Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:The first Christian Church to be founded was the Catholic Church. Back then, there was only one Church.
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The disintegration already happened during the Roman Empire, way before the schism.Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:Today the Christian 'Church', or Churches have disintergrated into several hundred different ones. But the Catholic Church remains as Christ's original deposit of faith , undeterred by evil forces, whether earthly or unearthly.
It is typical PAP politics - the 'opposition' were troublemakers and the Church had to 'fix' them. And today, the RC still happily proclaim the Catholic Church had the mandate from the very beginning. -
Just a bit on History
The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch (Acts 11:26)
The first mention of Church is in Acts 5 (the story of Ananias and Sapphira) and that's in Jerusalem. (this is after the resurrection, the other 2 is by Jesus in Matt 16, 18 )
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Can you claim that your church came first?Originally posted by laoda99:u sure? -
No doubt that politics was aplenty..Originally posted by Icemoon:The disintegration already happened during the Roman Empire, way before the schism.
It is typical PAP politics - the 'opposition' were troublemakers and the Church had to 'fix' them. And today, the RC still happily proclaim the Catholic Church had the mandate from the very beginning.
But do you see anyone else claiming this mandate? -
no!Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:No doubt that politics was aplenty..
But do you see anyone else claiming this mandate? -
He can't.Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:Can you claim that your church came first? -
If the Apostles were the princes of the Catholic Church, and Peter their leader...Originally posted by Icemoon:a 'Catholic Church' with Peter *not* as the leader.
Well done!
How is he not the leader of the Catholic Church?
In the Gospels, the Apostles were not called Christians. So are they Christians or Jews?Originally posted by vince69:Just a bit on History
The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch (Acts 11:26)
The first mention of Church is in Acts 5 (the story of Ananias and Sapphira) and that's in Jerusalem. (this is after the resurrection, the other 2 is by Jesus in Matt 16, 18 ) -
A bit more on Church History
The first church is definitely not the Roman Catholic Church, the early church exist in pockets of smaller churches across the various locations/cities.
Everywhere the believers goes, they formed pockets of smaller communities which evolves into local churches.
(all these are recorded in the book of Acts).
Its only in the later years that the bigger churches started to elevate themselves above the rest of the smaller churches around them resulting in 2 main groups
The Roman Catholic Church based in Rome and the Eastern Orthodox Church based in Constantinople.