Buddhism and Christianity
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Originally posted by alien2:
Another ignorant doit
[b]A religion of true peace that has never advocated any violence in its name.
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Therefore I guess violence is a art form only..I thot the best kong-fu exponents came form Shuang Lim Temple... oxymoronic?[/b]
By right, Chinese practise kung fu mainly for health reasons and defence. But of course, there will be people who use it to fight.
By the way, Shaolin is the temple that practise kung fu in any form, not Shuang Lin or anything. -
Thanks for the spelling corrects.. so wise guy..Originally posted by laurence82:Another ignorant doit
By right, Chinese practise kung fu mainly for health reasons and defence. But of course, there will be people who use it to fight.
By the way, Shaolin is the temple that practise kung fu in any form, not Shuang Lin or anything.
So all the Chinese literatures depicts the fierce monks from Shaolin are only art-form: for health reasons and defence..great ideas just sound to me like
election 2006 propaganda trying to convince the public that it's not election goodies, but really P.. packages! The world in the news reported it election goodies so they needed correction too! hehehehehehehehehehehe!
Did someone here says the Shaolin help to restore some dynasty in China, so they did with peaceful means, eh? -
Originally posted by alien2:
lol .. reminds me of Jiu Mo Zhi from Tian Long Ba Bu. Heath reason indeed.
So all the Chinese literatures depicts the [b]fierce monks from Shaolin are only art-form: for health reasons and defence..great ideas just sound to me like
election 2006 propaganda trying to convince the public that it's not election goodies, but really P.. packages! The world in the news reported it election goodies so they needed correction too! hehehehehehehehehehehe!
Did someone here says the Shaolin help to restore some dynasty in China, so they did with peaceful means, eh?
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I don't know what dynasty they helped to restore, but I heard of Shaolin monks coming to the emperor's rescue during the Tang? Dynasty. I don't know the full s tory, can anyone tell me? -
Originally posted by alien2:
You said it, Chinese literature.
Thanks for the spelling corrects.. so wise guy..
So all the Chinese literatures depicts the [b]fierce monks from Shaolin are only art-form: for health reasons and defence..great ideas just sound to me like
election 2006 propaganda trying to convince the public that it's not election goodies, but really P.. packages! The world in the news reported it election goodies so they needed correction too! hehehehehehehehehehehe!
Did someone here says the Shaolin help to restore some dynasty in China, so they did with peaceful means, eh?
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What more can I say?
The next thing you might say is that Monkey God is real cause a Ming Dynasty writer wrote about him, or that XiMen Qing is a real person.
And seriously, I dont know the link with the elections. It seems everything and anything can be used as an analogy, which debase the usefulness of analogies. -
Tian Long Ba Bu lehOriginally posted by Icemoon:lol .. reminds me of Jiu Mo Zhi from Tian Long Ba Bu. Heath reason indeed.
I don't know what dynasty they helped to restore, but I heard of Shaolin monks coming to the emperor's rescue during the Tang? Dynasty. I don't know the full s tory, can anyone tell me?
u of all people
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tell me leh.Originally posted by laurence82:u of all people
tsk tsk 
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ask you, who wrote Tian Long Ba BuOriginally posted by Icemoon:tell me leh.
Jin Yong or Sima Qian? -
Jin Yong!Originally posted by laurence82:ask you, who wrote Tian Long Ba Bu
Jin Yong or Sima Qian?
Am I right?
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So you gonna have impression of something based on literature writers' stuff?Originally posted by Icemoon:Jin Yong!
Am I right?
Its like I am judging Christianity using Da Vinci Code
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Literature also good leh. Like in Jin Yong, the highest kungfu belongs to the Janitor/Sweeping monk! And the reason given is because he has learnt beyond the sutras.Originally posted by laurence82:So you gonna have impression of something based on literature writers' stuff?
Its like I am judging Christianity using Da Vinci Code
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And in Da Vinci Code .. Dan Brown wrote Bishop Aringarossa to be a good guy, his love for Silas to the end. -
Originally posted by laoda99:
All those are not religious wars but violence caused by some Buddhists.
[b]can the BBC website be trusted? It says:
Buddhism and violence
But Buddhism, like the other great faiths, has not always lived up to its principles - there are numerous examples of Buddhists engaging in violence and even war.
in the 14th century Buddhist fighters led the uprising that evicted the Mongols from China
in Japan, Buddhist monks trained Samurai warriors in meditation that made them better fighters
In the twentieth century Japanese Zen masters wrote in support of Japan's wars of aggression. For example, Sawaki Kodo (1880–1965) wrote this in 1942:
"It is just to punish those who disturb the public order. Whether one kills or does not kill, the precept forbidding killing [is preserved]. It is the precept forbidding killing that wields the sword. It is the precept that throws the bomb."
In Sri Lanka the 20th century civil war between the mostly Buddhist Sinhalese majority and the Hindu Tamil minority has cost 50,000 lives.[/b] -
Originally posted by alien2:
Kung-fu is always practised for health and self-defense, never for offensive purpose. You never heard before meh?
[b]A religion of true peace that has never advocated any violence in its name. .
Therefore I guess violence is a art form only..I thot the best kong-fu exponents came form Shuang Lim Temple... oxymoronic?[/b] -
somebody please kill meOriginally posted by Icemoon:Literature also good leh. Like in Jin Yong, the highest kungfu belongs to the Janitor/Sweeping monk! And the reason given is because he has learnt beyond the sutras.
And in Da Vinci Code .. Dan Brown wrote Bishop Aringarossa to be a good guy, his love for Silas to the end.
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Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
playing with semantics?
All those are not [b]religious wars but violence caused by some Buddhists.[/b]
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Originally posted by alien2:
Those who practise Shaolin may not live up to the Shaolin philosophy of non-offensiveness, they may not even be Buddhists.
Thanks for the spelling corrects.. so wise guy..
So all the Chinese literatures depicts the [b]fierce monks from Shaolin are only art-form: for health reasons and defence..great ideas just sound to me like
election 2006 propaganda trying to convince the public that it's not election goodies, but really P.. packages! The world in the news reported it election goodies so they needed correction too! hehehehehehehehehehehe!
Did someone here says the Shaolin help to restore some dynasty in China, so they did with peaceful means, eh?
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There is by right and also by leftOriginally posted by An Eternal Now:Kung-fu is always practised for health and self-defense, never for offensive purpose. You never heard before meh?
People just abuse it lor.
Like money, can do good can do evil -
I can't .. 'cos I learn gongfu for health reason!Originally posted by laurence82:somebody please kill me
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Ya la. These people never follow shaolin philosophy nor practise Buddhism.Originally posted by laurence82:There is by right and also by left
People just abuse it lor.
Like money, can do good can do evil -
goodOriginally posted by Icemoon:I can't .. 'cos I learn gongfu for health reason!
what gongfu u learning now? -
I think In Tian Long Ba Bu, the "big brother" happens to be abbot of Shaolin right? Also the abbot of Shaolin also took part in the attack on Guangming Peak in Yi Tian Tu Long Ji.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Those who practise Shaolin may not live up to the Shaolin philosophy of non-offensiveness, they may not even be Buddhists.
But still, Jin Yong reserves his highest praise for people like Janitor Monk and Duan Yu, who truly understood the essence of Buddhism.
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Pi Xie Jian Fa.Originally posted by laurence82:good
what gongfu u learning now? -
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shucksOriginally posted by Icemoon:Pi Xie Jian Fa.
i forgot all the stories
bi xie jian fa is the most powderful of them all rite? -
Sorry is it a movie? I didnt watch leh...Originally posted by Icemoon:I think In Tian Long Ba Bu, the "big brother" happens to be abbot of Shaolin right? Also the abbot of Shaolin also took part in the attack on Guangming Peak in Yi Tian Tu Long Ji.
But still, Jin Yong reserves his highest praise for people like Janitor Monk and Duan Yu, who truly understood the essence of Buddhism. -
novels and dramas.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Sorry is it a movie? I didnt watch leh...
the stories are pretty addictive.