Pope denounces 'careerism'
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Pope denounces 'careerism'
Roman Catholic priests lay prostrate in Saint Peter's Basilica in the Vatican yesterday during their ordination into the priesthood by Pope Benedict XVI. The Pope denounced careerism in the priesthood, which he defined as "an attempt to get to the top, to procure oneself a position through the Church, in order to serve oneself, not to serve [others]".
The 15 new priests — 12 Italians, a Honduran, an Israeli and a Pole, who range in age from 27 to 42 — will go into service in the Diocese of Rome. (AFP)
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I think this is an issue which all churches face...
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propably because there is a fine line between 'careerism' and ministry, reason being (especially in the local church context), most pastors here are full time church staff, meaning they draw a salary from the church (they have family to feed too, right), so in a way, its a career for them also.Originally posted by laoda99:Pope denounces 'careerism'
Roman Catholic priests lay prostrate in Saint Peter's Basilica in the Vatican yesterday during their ordination into the priesthood by Pope Benedict XVI. The Pope denounced careerism in the priesthood, which he defined as "an attempt to get to the top, to procure oneself a position through the Church, in order to serve oneself, not to serve [others]".
The 15 new priests — 12 Italians, a Honduran, an Israeli and a Pole, who range in age from 27 to 42 — will go into service in the Diocese of Rome. (AFP)
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I think this is an issue which all churches face...
yes, there are also a few 'tent making' pastor around (meaning they have their own outside source of income).
*Note: the term 'Tent making' is term normally refering to the example of Paul, who through his own tent making business, funded his own work in the ministry, its not a ministry per se nor is it a must that all pastor make tents nor that pastor must fund their own ministry. -
I dont think its easy to be a priest
I saw a documentary on the Vatican, and the senior priests were training some junior ones.
Its even worse than uni lectures. You are expected to hold a Mass, had it videotaped and the senior priests would run through the correct actions and the bad mistakes by replaying the videos with the juniors.
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cause after this, these people will be dealing with people's life (mostly spiritual but in some aspect physical as well), so training must be tough/strict to make sure they can really do their job correctly mah....Originally posted by laurence82:I dont think its easy to be a priest
I saw a documentary on the Vatican, and the senior priests were training some junior ones.
Its even worse than uni lectures. You are expected to hold a Mass, had it videotaped and the senior priests would run through the correct actions and the bad mistakes by replaying the videos with the juniors.
Shiong
double honors comes with double responsibilities.... -
trueOriginally posted by vince69:cause after this, these people will be dealing with people's life (mostly spiritual but in some aspect physical as well), so training must be tough/strict to make sure they can really do their job correctly mah....
double honors comes with double responsibilities....
i think it should also mirror everyone's life as well, as head of the government, head of the family etc etc, the responsibilities should increase as well
well, too bad, many want the power but not the responsibilities, as my Scout leader used to say -
It's necessary training. Badly celebrated Masses are an insult to Divinity.Originally posted by laurence82:I dont think its easy to be a priest
I saw a documentary on the Vatican, and the senior priests were training some junior ones.
Its even worse than uni lectures. You are expected to hold a Mass, had it videotaped and the senior priests would run through the correct actions and the bad mistakes by replaying the videos with the juniors.
Shiong