Righteousness through faith
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so are you the only person in EH that knows my ugly face?Originally posted by s|nNeD:perhaps we've crossed path while i'm in the seminar room opposite the sanctuary and if you happen to be outside the sanctuary.
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Wad ugly face.Originally posted by Chin Eng:so are you the only person in EH that knows my ugly face?
no lah, I am not at THAT sanctuary. Two floors up. I'm there.
all along i thought you were in Contempory Service. Didn't know you were in the Liturgical Service.
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oh wait, or are you in the Hokkien Service?
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Originally posted by laoda99:
You are wrong lah.... you don't "upload the law"(sic); you look at your behavior and compare that with the law. If you fall short you don't try to remember what the law says and do accordingly... you question your faith and try agin and then compare your behavior with what the law says... get it???
Romans 3
[b] 20Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin.
21But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, 23for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement,[i] through faith in his blood. He did this to demonstrate his justice, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished— 26he did it to demonstrate his justice at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus.
27Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. On what principle? On that of observing the law? No, but on that of faith. 28For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law. 29Is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too, 30since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith. 31Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.
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As seen from above, righteousness through faith and we upload the law becoz we love Christ, not righteousness by keeping god's commandments and using it for our salvation, becoz we can never be righteous by ourselves.
God's salvation for us is guaranteed thru Christ, not by the law.
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LS, most definitely LS.Originally posted by s|nNeD:Wad ugly face.
all along i thought you were in Contempory Service. Didn't know you were in the Liturgical Service. -
THE LAW IS A MIRROR; NOT A TOOL
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Originally posted by casino_king:You are wrong lah.... you don't "upload the law"(sic); you look at your behavior and compare that with the law. If you fall short you don't try to remember what the law says and do accordingly... you question your faith and try agin and then compare your behavior with what the law says... get it???
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Originally posted by casino_king:
I agree
[b]THE LAW IS A MIRROR; NOT A TOOL[/b] -
Go and think about it please... I had debated many people and this is the best answer I ever got.... or maybe I derived it myself... whatever... go and give it a good thought.Originally posted by laoda99: -
In the laws of a country... yes you better remember what the law says and not violate it. In religious matters, you don't do such stupid things... that's waht starts the religious wars and suicide bombings...
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I am giving it a good thought....the only part I understand is "U dun upload the law"....Originally posted by casino_king:Go and think about it please... I had debated many people and this is the best answer I ever got.... or maybe I derived it myself... whatever... go and give it a good thought. -
Ai yah... I am quoting you... you read your own post... your first post, your opening post... you said... "As seen from above, righteousness through faith and we upload the law becoz we love Christ, "Originally posted by laoda99:I am giving it a good thought....the only part I understand is "U dun upload the law".... -
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Originally posted by casino_king:
THE LAW IS A MIRROR; NOT A TOOL
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****gasp!***** faints....Originally posted by laoda99:I agree
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Originally posted by casino_king:
ok thanks for the reminder....
Ai yah... I am quoting you... you read your own post... your first post, your opening post... you said... "As seen from above, righteousness through faith and we [b]upload the law becoz we love Christ, "[/b] -
HOW NICE... LOVE PEACE... NOT WAR
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You people now so nice to me I am begining to think God works in mysterious ways.Originally posted by laoda99:ok thanks for the reminder.... -
So U guys and great theologians:
How do I get saved ? When i know for sure casino_king himself seems like a great politician?
Can anyone here do some preaching to LKY since he is so near the stage of time to go to eternity? -
Originally posted by norey:
hello hello; this is not speaker's corner ah...
So U guys and great theologians:
How do I get saved ? When i know for sure casino_king himself seems like a great politician?
Can anyone here do some preaching to LKY since he is so near the stage of time to go to [b]eternity?[/b] -
does CE look like the Apostle Paul?Originally posted by Chin Eng:so are you the only person in EH that knows my ugly face?
'cos he mentioned before he also a little short and plump, just like Paul.
I think Paul was bald also.
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Are u JTB? haha...Originally posted by casino_king:You people now so nice to me I am begining to think God works in mysterious ways. -
oh yea..i forgot,,Originally posted by casino_king:hello hello; this is not speaker's corner ah... but so U guys can just so easily skim of the fat
and just say all life is Chrsitianity..no politicking here? is that sanity 2?
How does a rich old man get into the kingdom of God since he has done so much for Singapore? -
Originally posted by norey:
Ah you see my sig below? I recommend religion to people who are problem gamblers when they cannot see logic. so if you want me to recommend a religion for the old man, you have come to the right place.... but then I cannot say it out loud... very disrespectful (this is not speaker's corner)
oh yea..i forgot,, but so [b]U guys can just so easily skim of the fat
and just say all life is Chrsitianity..no politicking here? is that sanity 2?
How does a rich old man get into the kingdom of God since he has done so much for Singapore? [/b]
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Your sig sounds like the classical cycle in Buddhism. Birth, old, sick, death.Originally posted by casino_king:Ah you see my sig below? I recommend religion to people who are problem gamblers when they cannot see logic. so if you want me to recommend a religion for the old man, you have come to the right place.... but then I cannot say it out loud... very disrespectful (this is not speaker's corner) -
we all gamble though we may not have gambling problems..does that maybe make a person unfit for the kingdom? So U talk abot righteousness..whatOriginally posted by casino_king:Ah you see my sig below? I recommend religion to people who are problem gamblers when they cannot see logic. so if you want me to recommend a religion for the old man, you have come to the right place.... but then I cannot say it out loud... very disrespectful (this is not speaker's corner)
kind, the heavenly one or whose? BTW if it's assumingly Jesus what will he do when he goes to the S'pore casino..or tell Peter to go fishing? -
Originally posted by norey:
I think LKY is an agnostic....
oh yea..i forgot,, but so [b]U guys can just so easily skim of the fat
and just say all life is Chrsitianity..no politicking here? is that sanity 2?
How does a rich old man get into the kingdom of God since he has done so much for Singapore? [/b]