the true 'christians'
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he is saying tat we must be careful of the things tat r taught...but he also said the bible is nt complete...he dunno tat by saying tis many christians here r gonna have lots to say...especially ppl like laoda, NT2, myself n probably brey...
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x 2Originally posted by vince69:
layman term pls
I catch no ball....
which is close to me labelling it as KSM. -
Becareful of things that are taught. - Ok.Originally posted by despondent:he is saying tat we must be careful of the things tat r taught...but he also said the bible is nt complete...he dunno tat by saying tis many christians here r gonna have lots to say...especially ppl like laoda, NT2, myself n probably brey...
Bible not complete - Ok.
the last statement - OK. So? So he don't know...and then? -
u mean u agree tat the bible is nt complete??? then r u saying the bible is nt perfect? christians hold the stand tat the bible is complete n perfect...cos laoda, brey, myself n NT2 sure wil hold firm tat the bible is perfect n complete...
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I think he is confused...like many of us here are.....Originally posted by despondent:he is saying tat we must be careful of the things tat r taught...but he also said the bible is nt complete...he dunno tat by saying tis many christians here r gonna have lots to say...especially ppl like laoda, NT2, myself n probably brey...
but some...in my view...have split personalities
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Are you replying to my post?Originally posted by despondent:u mean u agree tat the bible is nt complete??? then r u saying the bible is nt perfect? christians hold the stand tat the bible is complete n perfect...cos laoda, brey, myself n NT2 sure wil hold firm tat the bible is perfect n complete...
If you are, don't mind quote me the next time?
There are some people who thinks the bible is not complete, there are some who stood by the complete and authenticated word.
Doesn't matter to me. This one can argue until cow comes home. Not going to be bothered.
Application of the word is most important. -
I no hab Spirt personality hoooooorrrrrrrrrrOriginally posted by laoda99:I think he is confused...like many of us here are.....
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Originally posted by Blue Stardust:I don't like this cult...
Remember that what ever church or any places you come from.
Follow the words of the bible and follow the way of a christian which was pass down 2000 years ago...
what is this the way of a christian??? thought as christian we just follow the Lord's way?
anything that changes that way is pure satan work.
ok...
Till now mankind still have many things we don't understand what written on bible so don't try to be smart, and teaching wrong things to people...by doing such act is very evil.
study the word, cross reference, concordance, commentaries, bible surveys, bible dictionary... most important... the bible
Remember that bible itself is not a complete book...cos many parts are missing or destroy...that is why people use such loophole to "cheat" on people.
its a complate, loophole people used is acctually the idea that the bible is not complete thus can add to it with extra biblical writtings/'revelations'
Till then wait for people to found more prove and facts like the old scrolls found in the dead sea cave.
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Do u know the history of bible and how it come about?...do a seach on internet...Originally posted by despondent:u mean u agree tat the bible is nt complete??? then r u saying the bible is nt perfect? christians hold the stand tat the bible is complete n perfect...cos laoda, brey, myself n NT2 sure wil hold firm tat the bible is perfect n complete...
I agree that it is the most complete and perfect till to this date but some parts of it are very grey cos some events at that time is lost or records are missing... more info are needed in order to understand deeper. -
Understand deeper liao then how?Originally posted by Blue Stardust:Do u know the history of bible and how it come about?...do a seach on internet...
I agree that it is the most complete and perfect till to this date but some parts of it are very grey cos some events at that time is lost or records are missing... more info are needed in order to understand deeper.
Can enhance spiritual life ah? -
understand more = less chance to be cheated mah...Originally posted by M©+square:Understand deeper liao then how?
Can enhance spiritual life ah?
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are u a christian blue stardust?Originally posted by Blue Stardust:Do u know the history of bible and how it come about?...do a seach on internet...
I agree that it is the most complete and perfect till to this date but some parts of it are very grey cos some events at that time is lost or records are missing... more info are needed in order to understand deeper. -
well..yes the scrolls confirm the writing too...but some of it was not included in bible...Originally posted by vince69:
but was into other books...
u can read up here on this link
http://www.sacred-texts.com/[/u]
This link is more closer:
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He is like me... used to scare that I am cheated...what if i believe in a false gospel?Originally posted by vince69:understand more = less chance to be cheated mah... 
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Then discretion of HS is wayang ah....Originally posted by vince69:understand more = less chance to be cheated mah...
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i am not scare...just to search for knowledge...just that i was confuse once by many people interprete a gosepel which have a same princple but with diff meaning....Originally posted by laoda99:He is like me... used to scare that I am cheated...what if i believe in a false gospel? -
hmm...are u a christian stardust and which denomination?Originally posted by Blue Stardust:i am not scare...just to search for knowledge...just that i was confuse once by many people interprete a gosepel which have a same princple but with diff meaning....
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...erm.Originally posted by Blue Stardust:i am not scare...just to search for knowledge...just that i was confuse once by many people interprete a gosepel which have a same princple but with diff meaning....
Can you define what you meant by principle
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why the need to have a demomination, be diff yourself from others...so to be special?Originally posted by laoda99:hmm...are u a christian stardust and which denomination?
which gospel u were once confused? Are u still confused?
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which gospel were u confused? and wat's ur conclusion...Originally posted by Blue Stardust:why the need to have a demomination, be diff yourself from others...so to be special?
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Simple example will be like, let say a simple act:Originally posted by M©+square:...erm.
Can you define what you meant by principle
and meaning?
a fundamentalists normally will interprete of bible and apply it to everyday matters...strong view in non-evangelical.
a charismarics stress intimate workings of holy spirit and faith healing, speaking in tongues...reach out to others
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Thanks for your explaination.Originally posted by Blue Stardust:Simple example will be like, let say a simple act:
a fundamentalists normally will interprete of bible and apply it to everyday matters...strong view in non-evangelical.
a charismarics stress intimate workings of holy spirit and faith healing, speaking in tongues...reach out to others
Yet they are serving the same purpose/principle...knowledge to understand more about God and serve Him better.
I don't quite understand how a charismatic can be fundamentalist as the same time. Oh well...i'm not surprised by fusions of beliefs these days. -
a charismatic speaker promoting fundamentalism?Originally posted by M©+square:Thanks for your explaination.
I don't quite understand how a charismatic can be fundamentalist as the same time. Oh well...i'm not surprised by fusions of beliefs these days.
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discretion of Holy Spirit? nothing to be discret about lehOriginally posted by M©+square:Then discretion of HS is wayang ah....
Each believers should know what they believe and why they believe.
ok, the role of the Holy Spirit (probable need a new thread on its own) in short is to bring to rememberance what is already being taught in the Bible, to guide a believer in their daily living along the principles of the scriptures.
Not about new revelations.
Agree, every believer should and ought to know the whats and whys of their beliefs.
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Yah loh. You mentioned that understanding more will get less chance of being cheated.Originally posted by vince69:discretion of Holy Spirit? nothing to be discret about leh
ok, the role of the Holy Spirit (probable need a new thread on its own) in short is to bring to rememberance what is already being taught in the Bible, to guide a believer in their daily living along the principles of the scriptures.
Not about new revelations.
Agree, every believer should and ought to know the whats and whys of their beliefs.
Discretion will help you to quickly find what messages are troubled and not accurate.
Nothing about new revelations.
God, the Holy Spirit brings a person to deep understanding of scriptures.
That's when our finite mind truly enlightens. Matters which are grey could come clear, not JUST by reading and understanding. But also by deep communion with the Holy Spirit.
We have about the same perception and belief of HS can liao.