If Jesus is a God.......
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It is interesting considering NT2 and laoda are closely aligned in their theology, i.e. some flavour of Calvinism.Originally posted by despondent:i personally dun see anything wrong too...perhaps u, NT2 can explain ur definition of the Holy Trinity? -
calvinist r very strict abt the deity of jesus n the fundamentals of christianity...come to tink of it, i wun be surprise NT2 has a very strict definition of the Holy Trinity. to the calvinist, 1 word out of place n u r considered wrong...
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Actually I don't really think NT2 takes the Reformed position *seriously*.Originally posted by despondent:calvinist r very strict abt the deity of jesus n the fundamentals of christianity...come to tink of it, i wun be surprise NT2 has a very strict definition of the Holy Trinity. to the calvinist, 1 word out of place n u r considered wrong...
Because he quotes from the 39 Articles of Faith and never from the Westminister Confession of Faith.
(they don't contradict, btw)
I never knew there is a 39 Articles of Faith until he quoted from them.
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I was blind but now i see!Originally posted by NT2:read the Revelation accounts and see
Thanks. Yes, the Holy Spirit is inside the worship. Praise God!
Rev 1:4: "John, to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace to you & peace from Him who is & who was & who is to come, & from the seven Spirits who are before his throne,"
Hallelujah! Praise God the Father, Son & Holy Ghost! The Holy Ghost is before the throne! Hallelujah!
In fact, the trinity is mentioned from Rev 1:4-6. Hallelujah! Praise God! -
Probably because the bible itself does not overemphasize on the Holy Spirit more than the Son.Originally posted by Icemoon:The Holy Spirit is under-represented in worship songs.
Christians always sing "Jesus, lamb of God .. " and similar variants.
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this is because of the Incarnation.Originally posted by mhcampboy:If Jesus is a God, why do He worship another God?
Anyone can clarify me on this? Im just learning.
God the Son becoming 100% man without relinquishing His deity. He became 100% Man while at the same time 100% God. Two natures in one person. Competely God and at the same time completely Man.
Being God he recieves worship. Being truly human, He worships God because no human being is complete without worshipping the true God. -
so He is God and also a human at the same time??Originally posted by Ironside:this is because of the Incarnation.
God the Son becoming 100% man without relinquishing His deity. He became 100% Man while at the same time 100% God. Two natures in one person. Competely God and at the same time completely Man.
Being God he recieves worship. Being truly human, He worships God because no human being is complete without worshipping the true God. -
amenOriginally posted by mhcampboy:so He is God and also a human at the same time?? -
very correct!Originally posted by mhcampboy:so He is God and also a human at the same time?? -
if you cannot comprehend, it is all right.Originally posted by mhcampboy:so He is God and also a human at the same time??
'cos neither can all of us. -
not very difficult to comprehend....Originally posted by Icemoon:if you cannot comprehend, it is all right.
'cos neither can all of us.
Christ has to be fully god to take away sins
and he has to be fully human in order to be one of us, to go thru the things we go thru. Where Adam has failed, Christ has shown that obedience to god is perfectly possible. -
this is not the complete picture.Originally posted by laoda99:not very difficult to comprehend....
Christ has to be fully god to take away sins
and he has to be fully human in order to be one of us, to go thru the things we go thru. Where Adam has failed, Christ has shown that obedience to god is perfectly possible.
The complete picture is that Christ is fully God, and yet He was praying to God the Father while on Earth.
How to comprehend?
I rather stick with God manifesting as a burnng bush to Moses. Easier to understand. -
i think ironside explained very clear above?Originally posted by Icemoon:this is not the complete picture.
The complete picture is that Christ is fully God, and yet He was praying to God the Father while on Earth.
How to comprehend?
I rather stick with God manifesting as a burnng bush to Moses. Easier to understand.
read? -
yup.Originally posted by mhcampboy:so He is God and also a human at the same time??
you got that right. -
I make things even easier for uOriginally posted by laoda99:i think ironside explained very clear above?
read?
christ=fully human right?
human=must pray to god right?
christ=pray to god? can right? -
He left the careful reader even more confused.Originally posted by laoda99:i think ironside explained very clear above?
read?
His answer is worded such that it leaves out the Trinity. So very careful. Must be drafted by a lawyer.
PS: Does he read the elections news?? -
http://www.christiananswers.net/kids/ednk-jesusgodorman.htmlOriginally posted by Icemoon:He left the careful reader even more confused.
His answer is worded such that it leaves out the Trinity. So very careful. Must be drafted by a lawyer.
PS: Does he read the elections news??
This link is for kids. I think easier to understand -
so why can't he just pray to himself? since he himself is also 100% god.Originally posted by laoda99:I make things even easier for u
christ=fully human right?
human=must pray to god right?
christ=pray to god? can right?
dang! -
low thia kiang says draft by him leh, not by lawyer.Originally posted by Icemoon:He left the careful reader even more confused.
His answer is worded such that it leaves out the Trinity. So very careful. Must be drafted by a lawyer.
PS: Does he read the elections news??
u wanna sue low thia kiang issit? -
dang! read the kids links i give uOriginally posted by Icemoon:so why can't he just pray to himself? since he himself is also 100% god.
dang!
dun understand i explain to u further..... -
the website never say.Originally posted by laoda99:dang! read the kids links i give u
dun understand i explain to u further.....
furthermore, i disagree with the following:Jesus proved that he is God by doing many things that only God could do. These are called miracles. He made dead people alive. He walked across a great lake. He made blind eyes see perfectly again. He healed deadly diseases with a word.
This is laughable when you consider modern charismatic pastors claim to be able to do most of these things, except the walking on water.
Also, in the OT, the prophets could also resurrect the death. No big deal.At various times in the past, Jesus had appeared to people in human form. One example is when he appeared to Abraham just before the judgment of the evil cities of Sodom and Gomorrah.
This is typical Christian practice. Like to claim events for themselves. Suddenly, the spirit of God in Genesis 1 became the Holy Spirit of the Trinity, and the stranger to Abraham now became Jesus Christ.
How convenient. -
U got see charismatic pastors resurrect the dead meh?
haizzz.....u very troublesome one....even kids also not as "ma fan" as u
"dai ni chu lai hen ma fan" -
I think I read somewhere some charismatic pastors claim to be able to resurrect the dead, or they're trying.Originally posted by laoda99:U got see charismatic pastors resurrect the dead meh?
haizzz.....u very troublesome one....even kids also not as "ma fan" as u
"dai ni chu lai hen ma fan" -
benny hinn is one...trying to raise the dead thru television....Originally posted by Icemoon:I think I read somewhere some charismatic pastors claim to be able to resurrect the dead, or they're trying. -
hey sometimes i think u quite ironic alsoOriginally posted by Icemoon:I think I read somewhere some charismatic pastors claim to be able to resurrect the dead, or they're trying.
i am curious to know what is Jesus to u....care to explain....