Gnosticism
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Faith in the credibility of the witnesses? Do you know what photographs are? Do you know what videos are? Do you know what collaborating evidence is? Do you know what impartial witnesses are. Don't make a fool of yourself and tell me that you have evidence of God like people can give you evidence of the existence of whales. You delusion is mind boggling.Originally posted by plo30360:Yes, actually you do. Here your placing your faith in the credibilty(among other things) of the witness.
Depends what evidence you want.
Before I show you, answer me this question, do you belive in the mind(not brain)?
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In the absence of any miraculous experience, it is more logical to believe God doesn't exist.Originally posted by plo30360:I'm suprised, this is coming from you. Its more illogical to say God doesn't exist.
However, I trust that you have a good explanation for that statement as usual?
While science may have many unanswered questions, it does not mean the answer lies in God and His actions. -
So ok you cannot prove that I am actually satan incarnate and writing in this forum to tempt you so:Originally posted by vince69:Just a thought, Can anyone really honestly proof that God does not exist?
1. You must worship me
2. You must pray to God to protect you from me
3. You must place crosses all over your house to keep me out
4. You must never visit sgforums again so that I cannot pullute your mind....
How can educated people be so retarded? There is no proof and so you use your imagination / hallucinate and that is acceptable? -
The thing is, they don't necessary point to a Creator God. One example is the anthropic principle. It is fallacious to use the anthropic principle to argue, logically, for God.Originally posted by vince69:Not really, there is a lot of things that also logically points to a Creater God.
and also a lot of things that points to Evolution being untrue.
The thing about logic is that its limited to a finite logical mind, hence also limited to experiences which again is limited.
Theologically, If God being God is infinite, can an finite mind really comprehend a infinite God?
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Videos can be doctored so can photographs.Collaborating evidence between two liars proves that something is true?
Faith in the credibility of the witnesses? Do you know what photographs are? Do you know what videos are? Do you know what collaborating evidence is?
Do you know what impartial witnesses are.
Now, I'm really suprised an atheist actually belives in impartial witness.
I have evidence for and of God. However of course, it will not be presented the way we have evidence for whales.
Don't make a fool of yourself and tell me that you have evidence of God like people can give you evidence of the existence of whales. You delusion is mind boggling.
Its seems you do a lot of name calling but no substance, at least SIS had substance.
I'll make it simpler for you.
Show me your educated proofs why God is not real ? -
In the absence of any miraculous experience, it is more logical to believe God doesn't exist.
On the contrary my belief in God is on the grounds of philosphy,theology and logic.
While science may have many unanswered questions, it does not mean the answer lies in God and His actions. -
plo talks sense.
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don't need philosophy, theology and logic. (though I subscribe to these three for my belief also)Originally posted by plo30360:On the contrary my belief in God is on the grounds of philosphy,theology and logic.
The problem of suffering (which is a reality to everybody) already whack the belief in God half dead liao. -
Wait he brings you to Sentosa Underwater World then you suck thumb!Originally posted by plo30360:Videos can be doctored so can photographs.Collaborating evidence between two liars proves that something is true? -
You have evidence of God but it will not be presented the way we have evidence of whales? So you want to produce Crap evidence based on imagination hallucination and product of weak minds?Originally posted by plo30360:Videos can be doctored so can photographs.Collaborating evidence between two liars proves that something is true? Laughing
Now, I'm really suprised an atheist actually belives in impartial witness.
Laughing
I have evidence for and of God. However of course, it will not be presented the way we have evidence for whales.
Its seems you do a lot of name calling but no substance, at least SIS had substance.
I'll make it simpler for you.
Show me your educated proofs why God is not real ?
If God exists why cannot you have evidence of God presented the way we have evidence of whales?
Your God is is a coward in hiding? You God is a so small and cannot be seen? Your God is a kid who like to play hide and seek?
You want proof that God is not real? That is so easy, there is no proof that God even exists and things that do not exists are not real. -
Your argument is so childish even someone who never take philo 101 also can refute.Originally posted by casino_king:You want proof that God is not real? That is so easy, there is no proof that God even exists and things that do not exists are not real.
There were no proof that electrons exist and things that do no exists are not real. So electrons *were* not real 2000 years ago. -
That is so stupid... the question of the existence of electrons was never contemplated 2000 years ago and so its existence was never an issue.Originally posted by Icemoon:Your argument is so childish even someone who never take philo 101 also can refute.
There were no proof that electrons exist and things that do no exists are not real. So electrons *were* not real 2000 years ago. -
but aren't you arguing for the existence or non-existence of something?Originally posted by casino_king:That is so stupid... the question of the existence of electrons was never contemplated 2000 years ago and so its existence was never an issue.
By the way .. the idea of the atom was conceptualized by the ancient Greeks 2000 years ago. (All sec school science students shd know .. )
You want me to change electrons to atoms? -
yup, icemoon is right. Things are always not as it seems. Even scientific theories are only transiently true, in the sense that perhaps decades down the road facts will change, etc.Originally posted by Icemoon:Your argument is so childish even someone who never take philo 101 also can refute.
There were no proof that electrons exist and things that do no exists are not real. So electrons *were* not real 2000 years ago. -
arguing about the existence of non existence of something that is being proposed... you want to deal with stuff that people have not even thought of yet?Originally posted by Icemoon:but aren't you arguing for the existence or non-existence of something?
By the way .. the idea of the atom was conceptualized by the ancient Greeks 2000 years ago. (All sec school science students shd know .. )
You want me to change electrons to atoms?
So now there is this proposal out there of the existence of God and for heaven's sake, the proposal does not stop at "something out there" but with personality and omni something something and yet totally without any evidence that you can produce like evidence of the existence of whales.
so since you cannot produce any conclusive evidence, you want to change the subject with dubious logic? -
Stuff like what?Originally posted by casino_king:arguing about the existence of non existence of something that is being proposed... you want to deal with stuff that people have not even thought of yet? -
Please don't change the subject... you can't even handle a simple question:Originally posted by Icemoon:Stuff like what?
Can you produce evidence of the existence of God like you can produce existence of the existence of whales? -
Originally posted by casino_king:Please don't change the subject... you can't even handle a simple question:
Can you produce evidence of the existence of God like you can produce existence of the existence of whales?
I never change the subject. We're still at your errorneous/silly/childish/fallacious argument you know?
And your reply wasn't clear to me, so I clarified. What stuff people haven't thought of, I was trying to clarify this point. -
.. and you can't even manage a simple answer?Originally posted by casino_king:Please don't change the subject... you can't even handle a simple question: -
It is clear to me that you are incapable of comprehanding the concept that there are things that the human brain has not even conceived.Originally posted by Icemoon:
I never change the subject. We're still at your errorneous/silly/childish/fallacious argument you know?
And your reply wasn't clear to me, so I clarified. What stuff people haven't thought of, I was trying to clarify this point.
The issue at hand is simple and you are trying your very best to avoid it so that you can continue with your delusions and illusions and yet want to give it some sort of respectability.
You really think anybody care if you are delusional? People only start to care when you try to export your stupidity. -
like what?Originally posted by casino_king:It is clear to me that you are incapable of comprehanding the concept that there are things that the human brain has not even conceived.
You mean atoms? Haha .. didn't the Greeks conceive it 2000 years ago? -
At least you're trying your best to refute this "stupiditiy" of mine.Originally posted by casino_king:You really think anybody care if you are delusional? People only start to care when you try to export your stupidity.
I think the rest has given up on you liao. -
Please do not lay out your stupidity for all to see... atoms had already been conceived by the human brain and have been proven to exists... so do not try to change the subject....Originally posted by Icemoon:like what?
You mean atoms? Haha .. didn't the Greeks conceive it 2000 years ago?
where is your evidence that God exists like evidence to prove that whales exists? If you feel comforted talking to imaginary friends, so be it. Just do not go around trying to convince people that your imaginary friend exists. -
hmm..let me try to answer.Originally posted by casino_king:Please don't change the subject... you can't even handle a simple question:
Can you produce evidence of the existence of God like you can produce existence of the existence of whales?
So let's say if you can produce evidence of the existence of God, then it is final right? Ans: No. Why? cuz people will always question the authenticity of the evidence anyway and also people who are narrow-minded etc.
Then let's say if you cannot produce the evidence of the existence of God, then it also does not mean that you cannot produce the evidence down the road, let's say after 10 years, 20 years or even 100 years?
Some things are very hard to prove or disprove, facts may be only true at certain periods of time. -
But there was no proof of the atom 2000 years ago. So according to your argument, atoms don't exist 2000 years ago.Originally posted by casino_king:Please do not lay out your stupidity for all to see... atoms had already been conceived by the human
Get it?