WHERE IS GOD?
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God is where you want him to be.All that is done, is done for him.
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ICOH is here to increase rating. To help us compete agianst Eternal Now's Buddhist forum.Originally posted by M©+square:
Waste of time.
He is a pawn in this whole game.
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You don't have to see it that way.Originally posted by Icemoon:ICOH is here to increase rating. To help us compete agianst Eternal Now's Buddhist forum.
He is a pawn in this whole game.
This is a forum, and we are just discussing likeminded topics and enjoying ourselves. -
Is it ? Or just having fun in his own perverse way ?Originally posted by Icemoon:ICOH is here to increase rating. To help us compete agianst Eternal Now's Buddhist forum.
He is a pawn in this whole game. -
I LIKE TO IRRITATE YOU WHAT!Originally posted by Icemoon:I think ICOH bluff one. His CAPS ARE MAKING ME IRRITATED.
If he is sincere, please use the screen keyboard to type his replies. Come on, if he can login using screen keyboard, why not do that for replies.
HOW DO YOU KNOW I BLUFF ONE? HOW DO YOU KNOW I AM NOT GOING THRU GREAT PAIN? HOW DO YOU KNOW GOD HASN'T BEEEN VERY FAIR TO ME? -
seek for Him. u cant be asking Him to come to u if u dun put in the effort to seek for God. it's just a lil faith u need.
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1. IF GOD IS NOT A TYRANT HOW COME HE CAN DO ANYTHING HE WANTS WITHOUT CONSULTING ANYONE?Originally posted by breytonhartge:1. God is not tyrannical. You just have no clue about God.
2. How and who and why God chooses to deal with you is between you and Him. There may be greater sinners than you out there, but then when we look, we can always find someone worse off than we are in terms of sin. The important point here is God is dealing with you NOW. He may or may not deal with the other "sinners", but He is dealing with you. Whether you let Him or not, is up to you.
3. It may seem that the Godless people have it better, but we as believers have a far better hope. Not that I say that I have a bad life, I have a blessed life which includes all the trials that I have had to go through. I think you have to learn to be content where you are in life, like the apostle Paul who said that he has learned to be content whether he abounds or is abaised. Sure the godless prosper, but you know what? In Proverbs 13, it says, "but the wealth of the sinner is stored up for the righteous."
4. Yes some suffering is not caused by sin, but by our own stupid mistakes and arrogance!
5. You miss the point about the quadraplegic, the moral of the story is not about him losing his limbs, it is about HIS ATTITUDE TO LIFE! Currently, yours sucks. You are one of those chicken littles that run around all day and say the sky is falling... the point is many of us go through trials and suffering, none of us are exempt. How you treat each trial and suffering determines whether you move on in life and grow stronger or you get stuck going round the same mountain again and again because you refuse to learn the lesson that God wants to teach you. Stop being so me focused and go help someone else, this may give you a differnt focus.
2. WHY GOD DEAL SUCH A HARD BLOW TO ME & NOT TO THOSE GREATER SINNERS? GOD IS BEING VERY BIASED. GOD IS NOT BEING VERY FAIR OR JUST. IF HE CAN DEAL LIKE THIS WITH ME, WHY CAN'T HE DEAL WORSE WITH THEM SO THAT THEY CAN ALSO REPENT?
3. AS YOU SAID ONLY HOPE. I CAN ONLY HOPE WHAT! SO SUFFER IN THIS LIFE THEN GO TO HEAVEN TO GET REWARD? LYING TO OURSELVES OR WHAT? OR JUST TRYING TO EASE OUR SUFFERING? CAN'T EAT THE GRAPES SO SAY THE GRAPES ARE SOUR?
4. I DON'T THINK SO. SOME SUFFERING ARE CAUSED BY ACCIDENTS, NATURAL DISASTERS, EVIL GOVTS & PEOPLE, CORRUPT JUDICIARY & POLICE, POVERTY, SICKNESS, GENETIC DISORDERS ETC ETC. SO THE PERSON SUFFERING MIGHT NOT BE HIS FAULT. THERE WAS A BLIND MAN FROM BIRTH IN THE BIBLE WHOM THE DISCIPLES OF JESUS ASKED WHOSE SIN CAUSED HIM TO BE BLIND, HIS PARENTS OR HIMSELF & JESUS ANSWERED NEITHER. SO WHOSE FAULT HE WAS BORN BLIND? GOD'S FAULT WHAT BCOS HE WAS BORN BLIND FOR GOD'S GLORY!
5. LET HIM ENDURE FIVE YRS DOWN THE ROAD & SEE WHETHER HE STILL NOT COMPLAIN OR MURMUR. YES THE SKY IS FALLING WHAT TO YOU CHRISTIANS, THE END OF THE WORLD IS COMING! -
SO ARE YOU SAYING THE DEFINITION OF GOD DEPENDS ON PERCEPTION? SO ARE U SAYING ALL RELIGION LEADS TO GOD? IF SO HOW COME GOD FIGHT GOD? NOW YOU HAVE THE ISLAMIC TERRORISTS THREATENING OR BOMBING PPL WHO ARE OF DIFF FAITHS BCOS GOD TOLD THEM TO DO IT. SO WHICH GOD IS THE REAL GOD? OR IS GOD MAD TO FIGHT & KILL HIMSELF & HIS FOLLOWERS? U SEE A MAD MAD MAD WORLD CREATED BY A MAD OR SCHIZOPHRENIC GOD!Originally posted by jenn_y:there is a reason why the threadstarter said "ATHEISTS & AGNOSTICS NEED NOT ANSWER".
also, what's ur point? that there is or isn't a god?
perception is one of the knower's way of knowing. EVERYTHING has a unique meaning to each person. love, freedom, god, table, tv, car, be it the tangible or the intangible, everyone ascribes different meanings to everything. even with something as simple as a pen, a person who receives it on his/her birthday would perceive it differently from a person who buys it. what is inconsistent here is OUR perception of god. it is not god who is inconsistent.
i said different people believe in different gods; i didn't say there are different gods. more inclined towards the teachings of christianity myself (though still an atheist), i believe that there is only ONE god, and that all other so-called gods are made up by humans. however, to a buddhist or a hindu, they believe that there are more than one god. which is right? there is no definite right or wrong. to a christian, their one and only god is real. to a buddist/other religions, their gods are the real ones. to an atheist, both are right or wrong.
of course, you can be skeptical and say there is no god. who can't be skeptical? but skepticism can bring u no where in an academical inquiry. u can deny this, that, everything. u are not wrong. but where does skepticism lead us to?
nowhere.
SO WHO CAN'T BE SKEPTICAL WHEN THINGS FUNNY LIKE THIS HAPPEN? WHEN GOD'S FOLLOWERS KILL GOD'S FOLLOWERS? -
IT'S OK. YOU'RE NOT TO BLAME. GOD IS TO BLAME FOR CREATING YOU BLONDE! YOU REALLY MEAN BLONDE AS IN GOLDEN HAIR? SO U EUROPEAN?Originally posted by jenn_y:ooops. sorry i didn't realise u are the threadstarter, though i did notice the capitalised text. blonde moments lol.. xP -
BUT YOU STILL DIDNT BELIEVE WHAT! SO WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL OF WHETHER CALM OR NOT, OR FANATICAL OR NOT? DOES IT MAKE A DIFFERENCE? I CAN BE CALM TO YOU BUT U STILL WOULDNT BELIEVE SO WHAT'S THE POINT HERE?Originally posted by laurence82:Sounds heck lot like JTB, but then, JTB could well be another person's clone
It seems very funny, there are two groups of christians i have always met
One group (most of the time) are calm and could just talk to you about god as if its the most natural thing in the world
The second group, i first saw it during my stint in ACJC, were tad overzealous to the point of madness, that you dont know its god they are passionate about or its just plain madness
But, I know somebody gonna come up and say its allright..right? -
THEN HE ISN'T GOD BCOS HE OBEYS YOU. HE IS BUT YOUR SLAVE.Originally posted by YummyGummy:God is where you want him to be.All that is done, is done for him. -
For once i agree with ICOH. Nevermind his arrogance or anger towards God. I can be nice to you but u still wouldn't believe. I can be nasty to u, u also wouldn't believe. So why be nice here? What's wrong with healthy fanaticsm? We are supposed to be zealous for Christ.Originally posted by ICanOnlyHope:BUT YOU STILL DIDNT BELIEVE WHAT! SO WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL OF WHETHER CALM OR NOT, OR FANATICAL OR NOT? DOES IT MAKE A DIFFERENCE? I CAN BE CALM TO YOU BUT U STILL WOULDNT BELIEVE SO WHAT'S THE POINT HERE? -
that is one of many ways.. Not the only way to reach god.Originally posted by laoda99:Believe in Christ and then u will find GOD.
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ICanOnlyHope,
Are you still frustrated?
We have allowed your venting for the past few days. If you do need help, please let us know. You can either post it in this thread or message any of us.
Perhaps you need to cool down first before you try to seek help.
I think this thread has served the purpose for you to let off some steam. Any more berating on your part only frustrates the members here who are trying to help you.
If this threads goes nowhere, it will be locked. -
I still don't know what the problem is
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hmmmm.....PM me la....
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just someone who need to vent out his angers/frustrations (personally went through this phrase before), after all the venting, then will calm down liao...Originally posted by Chin Eng:I still don't know what the problem is
(think what is needed is a listening ear).
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funny thing is.... there is really nothing to listen to....Originally posted by vince69:just someone who need to vent out his angers/frustrations (personally went through this phrase before), after all the venting, then will calm down liao...
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in modern days can that be considered as a Psalm?
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No! Lamentations....Originally posted by NT2:in modern days can that be considered as a Psalm?
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yupz. well said.. god is love.. god is truth.. god loves u for u.. and he'll be there for you through it all..Originally posted by jenn_y:where is god? god is in ur heart. ever wondered why different people believing in different gods? because god can't be seen. it is ur belief. he is in ur heart. can u see love? can u see freedom? similarly, god is something that u can't see but will always be there, no matter if u believe in him or not. -
God is good because you look around you and there is good.
God is evil because you look around you and there is evil.
God is kind because you look around you and you see kindness.
God is unkind because you look around you and nature is merciless.
God is great because you see the greatness of the universe.
God is small because life ends with old age.
God is a saint because all things comes from God.
God is satan because... all things come from God
You cannot see God because you want to see a god that fits your imagination.
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Originally posted by ICanOnlyHope:
1. IF GOD IS NOT A TYRANT HOW COME HE CAN DO ANYTHING HE WANTS WITHOUT CONSULTING ANYONE?
BECAUSE HE IS GOD!
2. WHY GOD DEAL SUCH A HARD BLOW TO ME & NOT TO THOSE GREATER SINNERS? GOD IS BEING VERY BIASED. GOD IS NOT BEING VERY FAIR OR JUST. IF HE CAN DEAL LIKE THIS WITH ME, WHY CAN'T HE DEAL WORSE WITH THEM SO THAT THEY CAN ALSO REPENT?
BECAUSE HE IS MORE CONCERNED ABOUT YOU THAN THE OTHER PEOPLE RIGHT NOW.
3. AS YOU SAID ONLY HOPE. I CAN ONLY HOPE WHAT! SO SUFFER IN THIS LIFE THEN GO TO HEAVEN TO GET REWARD? LYING TO OURSELVES OR WHAT? OR JUST TRYING TO EASE OUR SUFFERING? CAN'T EAT THE GRAPES SO SAY THE GRAPES ARE SOUR?
HOPE IN THE PROMISE THAT GOD HAS GIVEN US THAT HE IS FOR US AND THAT IF WE TRUST AND HAVE FAITH IN HIM, ALL THINGS WILL WORK FOR THE GOOD OF THOSE WHO LOVE HIM. JEREMIAH 29:13
4. I DON'T THINK SO. SOME SUFFERING ARE CAUSED BY ACCIDENTS, NATURAL DISASTERS, EVIL GOVTS & PEOPLE, CORRUPT JUDICIARY & POLICE, POVERTY, SICKNESS, GENETIC DISORDERS ETC ETC. SO THE PERSON SUFFERING MIGHT NOT BE HIS FAULT. THERE WAS A BLIND MAN FROM BIRTH IN THE BIBLE WHOM THE DISCIPLES OF JESUS ASKED WHOSE SIN CAUSED HIM TO BE BLIND, HIS PARENTS OR HIMSELF & JESUS ANSWERED NEITHER. SO WHOSE FAULT HE WAS BORN BLIND? GOD'S FAULT WHAT BCOS HE WAS BORN BLIND FOR GOD'S GLORY!
AND WHY DO YOU SUPPOSE THESE EVIL PEOPLE, GOVERNMENTS ETC CAUSE ALL THE SUFFERING? BECAUSE OF PRIDE AND HUMAN ARROGANCE TO NOT ADMIT MISTAKES WHEN THEY ARE DONE. WITH REGARDS TO THAT BLIND MAN, JESUS SAID THAT HE WAS BORN SO THAT GODS GLORY MAY BE REVEALED.
5. LET HIM ENDURE FIVE YRS DOWN THE ROAD & SEE WHETHER HE STILL NOT COMPLAIN OR MURMUR. YES THE SKY IS FALLING WHAT TO YOU CHRISTIANS, THE END OF THE WORLD IS COMING!
SOME PEOPLE ENDURE LONGER THAN 5 YEARS. -
I think you are the one that is blonde.Originally posted by ICanOnlyHope:IT'S OK. YOU'RE NOT TO BLAME. GOD IS TO BLAME FOR CREATING YOU BLONDE! YOU REALLY MEAN BLONDE AS IN GOLDEN HAIR? SO U EUROPEAN?