A question on the nature of this activity.....

• shade343

  29 Mar 06, 22:54

  Is the act of indulging in sadomaschism a sin? No sex involved. Just whips, PVC, nails and candlewaxs.
• vince69

  29 Mar 06, 23:34

  Originally posted by shade343:

  Is the act of indulging in sadomaschism a sin? No sex involved. Just whips, PVC, nails and candlewaxs.

  sounds like torture... sorry, just can't imagine anyone who enjoyed being tortured..
• NT2

  30 Mar 06, 00:09

  it is. the body for Christians is the temple of the Holy Spirit. Do you put candle wax, nail and whip the temple of God?
  
• SingaporeMacross

  30 Mar 06, 00:15

  although sexual intercourse may not be involved, it is clearly a sexual act. it cannot be encouraged, because violence is not in the spirit of love.
• babyys

  30 Mar 06, 00:18

  It is spelled out clearly in the bible. These are all abomination.
  
  1 TESSALONIANS 4:8
  
  1 Furthermore then we beseech you, brethren, and exhort you by the Lord Jesus, that as ye have received of us how ye ought to walk and to please God, so ye would abound more and more.
  
  2 For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.
  
  3 For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication:
  
  4 that every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honor;
  
  5 not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God:
  
  6 that no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified.
  
  7 For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness.
  
  8 He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his Holy Spirit
  
  REVELATION 21:8
  
  8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
  
• shade343

  30 Mar 06, 00:44

  But some people enjoy it. And lets say it is perform by a married couple. Then how?
• SingaporeMacross

  30 Mar 06, 00:49

  Originally posted by shade343:

  But some people enjoy it. And lets say it is perform by a married couple. Then how?

  Ok, I enjoy killing people for kicks. Is it morally correct?
  
  Besides, any sexual act which is not open to the possiblity of children is sinful.
• NT2

  30 Mar 06, 00:50

  Originally posted by shade343:

  But some people enjoy it. And lets say it is perform by a married couple. Then how?

  if that 2 of them enjoy it...i wonder if they r really christians.
  
  
• shade343

  30 Mar 06, 01:03

  Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:

  Ok, I enjoy killing people for kicks. Is it morally correct?
  
  Besides, any sexual act which is not open to the possiblity of children is sinful.

  Killing other people involves parties which may not be willing. Im talking about willing parties here.
• SingaporeMacross

  30 Mar 06, 01:07

  Originally posted by shade343:

  Killing other people involves parties which may not be willing. Im talking about willing parties here.

  what's your comment on my first post?
• shade343

  30 Mar 06, 02:41

  Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:

  although sexual intercourse may not be involved, it is clearly a sexual act. it cannot be encouraged, because violence is not in the spirit of love.

  Hmm, there are people who kill out of love. I think I recall the bible says "an eye for an eye" .
• M©+square

  30 Mar 06, 02:55

  Originally posted by shade343:

  But some people enjoy it. And lets say it is perform by a married couple. Then how?

  Valid question.
• hisoka

  30 Mar 06, 03:21

  Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:

  what's your comment on my first post?

  who's morals??
• babyys

  30 Mar 06, 10:28

  Originally posted by shade343:

  But some people enjoy it. And lets say it is perform by a married couple. Then how?

  The above bible verses is applicable to Married couples as well no exception.
• klydeer

  30 Mar 06, 12:17

  Originally posted by shade343:

  Hmm, there are people who kill out of love. I think I recall the bible says "an eye for an eye" .

  Matthew 5:38-42
  
  Part of Jesus's Sermon on the Mount.
  
  "You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth. But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you."
  
  God's message in the above law (An eye for an eye....) can be originally found in Exodus 21:24 - A law given to the judges and instituted as a guide for the judges. Not so much for personal relationships or to justify revenge. In context of the cruel times of the ancient world - this rule made punishment fits the crime. Jesus's Sermon on the Mount make use of this principle to teach His people about mercy and not to retaliate.
  
  So what what is the relationship between the Bible saying an eye for an eye and people killing out of love ?
  
  
• SingaporeMacross

  30 Mar 06, 23:54

  Originally posted by hisoka:

  who's morals??

  although sexual intercourse may not be involved, it is clearly a sexual act. it cannot be encouraged, because violence is not in the spirit of love.

  refer to this one la...