Homosexuality & Bestiality
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Originally posted by Chin Eng:ahbuthen.....!
Ever had a rear entry before? or desire to have a rear entry? or desire to provide a rear entry? or desire to watch Brokeback Mountain? (last one just kidding)
Or hugging a man is better than hugging a girl? or watch Brokeback Mountain (sorry I can't help it)
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/me see what time Heng@ will come in.
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OK, thanks for the friendly tone.... this is important with these potentially explosive topics.Originally posted by shade343:Well, doctrines came about because of man's interpretation of the bible. From what I know, Jesus has never condemned any homosexuals. If jesus didnt, why should christian doctrine be biased against them? Then again thats my POV. You are free to carry on what you believe in.
Yup Jesus never condemned any homosexuals... he also never condemned those involved in bestiality either.... so go figure....
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NOOOOOOO! CE has left the building.....Originally posted by M©+square:/me see what time Heng@ will come in. -
aren't you glad that you'd finally figured out that you ARE NOT GAY?Originally posted by Repented John 2: -
Wahaha....Originally posted by Chin Eng:NOOOOOOO! CE has left the building.....
/me just tiam tiam.
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true, Jesus did not condemn any homosexuals (the person), come to think of it, Jesus didn't condemn any adulteress(the person) also.Originally posted by shade343:Well, doctrines came about because of man's interpretation of the bible. From what I know, Jesus has never condemned any homosexuals. If jesus didnt, why should christian doctrine be biased against them? Then again thats my POV. You are free to carry on what you believe in.
But this does not means, the act of homosexuality is ok or should be accepted from a Christian Biblical point of view. -
Leviticus 20:13
13 If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them. -
Originally posted by Chin Eng:aren't you glad that you'd finally figured out that you ARE NOT GAY? I think God kept me safe from gayhood. Thank God!
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If Jesus didnt condemn, why should you condemn and think its wrong?Originally posted by vince69:true, Jesus did not condemn any homosexuals (the person), come to think of it, Jesus didn't condemn any adulteress(the person) also.
But this does not means, the act of homosexuality is ok or should be accepted from a Christian Biblical point of view. -
This is why the world is the way it is today.
Romans 1:18-28
18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness,
19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.
20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.
22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools
23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.
24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.
25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.
27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done.
29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips,
30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents;
31they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless.
32Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
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Actually i wasnt effeminate. I just didnt show interest in her as a man altho i find her cute but she's too young.Originally posted by shade343:Gay and effemination is 2 different things. You can be effeminate but not gay. YOu can be gay and not effeminate. Both are mutually exclusive. I acted as if i were gay. -
Originally posted by zanza:
u sound like the majority of the world are fags..
This is why the world is the way it is today.
Romans 1:18-28
18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness,
19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.
20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.
22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools
23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.
24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.
25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.
27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done.
29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips,
30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents;
31they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless.
32Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.[b]
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Jesus didnt condemn. Jesus said you must repent for the kingdom of God is at hand.Originally posted by shade343:If Jesus didnt condemn, why should you condemn and think its wrong?
1 Cor 6:9-10:
9 Don't you know that those who do wrong will have no share in the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, who are idol worshipers, adulterers, male prostitutes, homosexuals, 10 thieves, greedy people, drunkards, abusers, and swindlers – none of these will have a share in the Kingdom of God. -
Originally posted by zanza:
Overquote liao....
This is why the world is the way it is today.
Romans 1:18-28
18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness,
19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.
20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.
22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools
23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.
24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.
25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.
27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done.
29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips,
30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents;
31they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless.
32Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.[b]
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I so miss stupidissmart
I like his post.
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you serious ar? aiyoh... why?Originally posted by M©+square:Overquote liao....
I so miss stupidissmart
I like his post.
Cheers
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Originally posted by Repented John 2:
Corinthians is in OT right?
Jesus didnt condemn. Jesus said you must repent for the kingdom of God is at hand.
1 Cor 6:9-10:
9 Don't you know that those who do wrong will have no share in the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, who are idol worshipers, adulterers, male prostitutes, [b]homosexuals, 10 thieves, greedy people, drunkards, abusers, and swindlers – none of these will have a share in the Kingdom of God. [/b] -
Your head!Originally posted by shade343:Corinthians is in OT right? -
The Corinthians are in Corinth (somewhere in modern day Greece I think)Originally posted by shade343:Corinthians is in OT right?
The book 1st and 2nd Corinthians are part of New Testatment -
Because his challenges are logical.Originally posted by breytonhartge:you serious ar? aiyoh... why?
He did raise some points which Christians should think through and reflect.
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NOOOOOOOOO!.... CE slams the door and leave.....Originally posted by M©+square:Overquote liao....
I so miss stupidissmart
I like his post.
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His challenges are logical only from the atheistic POV, but totally illogical from the historical, cultural, translational standpoint..... but my greatest wish for him is to write coherently.... short note: poor spelling, grammar, language, no problem. Superlong note: poor spelling, grammar, language, big heap problem.Originally posted by M©+square:Because his challenges are logical.
He did raise some points which Christians should think through and reflect.
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Dear Christians,
What's the point in arguing that homosexuality is wrong?
Christians should be reminded that homosexuality is wrong in the Christian context, and such context is not applicable to non-Christians. Do not impose your religious thoughts on non-Christians. It is infringement of human rights.
Cheers
geodome -
This is a christian forum mah.Originally posted by geodome:Dear Christians,
What's the point in arguing that homosexuality is wrong?
Christians should be reminded that homosexuality is wrong in the Christian context, and such context is not applicable to non-Christians. Do not impose your religious thoughts on non-Christians. It is infringement of human rights.
Cheers
geodome
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Originally posted by Chin Eng:His challenges are logical only from the atheistic POV, but totally illogical from the historical, cultural, translational standpoint..... but my greatest wish for him is to write coherently.... short note: poor spelling, grammar, language, no problem. Superlong note: poor spelling, grammar, language, big heap problem.
Maybe i non Christian...i like him.
Cheers