What will happen if one gets left behind?
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As per above question. I think it's terrifying. But i was wondering how Antichrist going to enforce his rule. Seeing the communists also very powerful in China & elsewhere. Also not all will bow to him. I think there will be terrible wars. Worse than WWII. I will like to hear your ideas & opinions everyone.
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I read here and there
Funny thing is, what is the definition of antichrist? -
I mean you still dont know after reading here & there? Antichrist is someone who claims to be Christ but is not Christ.Originally posted by laurence82:Question
I read here and there
Funny thing is, what is the definition of antichrist? -
PreciselyOriginally posted by Raptured:I mean you still dont know after reading here & there? Antichrist is someone who claims to be Christ but is not Christ.
So, shouldnt you guys be looking at your own ranks instead of, what, the commies? -
The antiChrist will be one who is a very gifted and charismatic personality. He will come out of Europe when Europe will once again be reunited [we see now Europe reuniting-European union and Euro].Originally posted by Raptured:As per above question. I think it's terrifying. But i was wondering how Antichrist going to enforce his rule. Seeing the communists also very powerful in China & elsewhere. Also not all will bow to him. I think there will be terrible wars. Worse than WWII. I will like to hear your ideas & opinions everyone.
Out of this unity a ten-nation leauge will be formed from which the anti-Christ will emerge. it is the Roman empire revived. They will control the economy of the world and so this he uses as one of the levers to hold sway globally.
He will give false and temporary peace to the world and so every one will rally behind him at first.
He will also be given authority to rule the world. [that's how he does it]
He will set himself as God in the temple of Jerusalem [when it will be restored in the future] since Israel will accept Him as their long awaited Messiah. But after three years and a half a remnant in Israel will realize their mistake and be converted to the Lord. Those who will be left behind in Christendom will receive him also. All who oppose his rule will be subject to his persecutions and atrocities.
Eventually, there will be nations who will oppose him and since he will base his capital in Jerusalem, all other nations will combine and merge and attack Israel. It will be a real world war because every single nation in the world will be involved in the conflict unlike previous "world" wars.
either pro antichrist or against him. Of course those who are against do not attack him from a religious stand point. maybe it will be from a political and economic motivations.
But before they can destroy Israel the Lord will come and destroy the AntiChrist and the nations.
and so this prophecy in the Old testament will be fulfilled:
Joe 3:12 "Let the nations be wakened, and come up to the Valley of Jehoshaphat; For there I will sit to judge all the surrounding nations.
13 Put in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe. Come, go down; For the winepress is full, The vats overflow-For their wickedness is great."
14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision! For the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.
15 The sun and moon will grow dark, And the stars will diminish their brightness.
16 The LORD also will roar from Zion, And utter His voice from Jerusalem; The heavens and earth will shake; But the LORD will be a shelter for His people, And the strength of the children of Israel.
yes, it will be a terrible destruction. According to the Bible, if the blood of those will die in the Tribulation wil be measured according to height, it will reach up to a horses bridle. -
Sounds alot like from Nostradamus
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Be at peace. Those revelations of apocalypse and end times went off course a long time ago. The world has changed. Apocalypse has been averted and the world will never end.Originally posted by Raptured:As per above question. I think it's terrifying. But i was wondering how Antichrist going to enforce his rule. Seeing the communists also very powerful in China & elsewhere. Also not all will bow to him. I think there will be terrible wars. Worse than WWII. I will like to hear your ideas & opinions everyone. -
Precisely. Many will claim they are Christians, even performing miracles, but they arent Christians.Originally posted by laurence82:Precisely
So, shouldnt you guys be looking at your own ranks instead of, what, the commies? -
Originally posted by Ironside:
Amen Ironside. They even have seat no 666 in the EU council. Currently nobody is on that seat. But there will be somebody soon. Look at what happens to Iran-US-Syria conflict. Very soon end time scenario will play out. Hold on tight.
The antiChrist will be one who is a very gifted and charismatic personality. He will come out of Europe when Europe will once again be reunited [we see now Europe reuniting-European union and Euro].
Out of this unity a ten-nation leauge will be formed from which the anti-Christ will emerge. it is the Roman empire revived. They will control the economy of the world and so this he uses as one of the levers to hold sway globally.
He will give false and temporary peace to the world and so every one will rally behind him at first.
He will also be given authority to rule the world. [that's how he does it]
He will set himself as God in the temple of Jerusalem [when it will be restored in the future] since Israel will accept Him as their long awaited Messiah. But after three years and a half a remnant in Israel will realize their mistake and be converted to the Lord. Those who will be left behind in Christendom will receive him also. All who oppose his rule will be subject to his persecutions and atrocities.
Eventually, there will be nations who will oppose him and since he will base his capital in Jerusalem, all other nations will combine and merge and attack Israel. It will be a real world war because [b]every single nation in the world will be involved in the conflict unlike previous "world" wars.
either pro antichrist or against him. Of course those who are against do not attack him from a religious stand point. maybe it will be from a political and economic motivations.
But before they can destroy Israel the Lord will come and destroy the AntiChrist and the nations.
and so this prophecy in the Old testament will be fulfilled:
Joe 3:12 "Let the nations be wakened, and come up to the Valley of Jehoshaphat; For there I will sit to judge all the surrounding nations.
13 Put in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe. Come, go down; For the winepress is full, The vats overflow-For their wickedness is great."
14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision! For the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.
15 The sun and moon will grow dark, And the stars will diminish their brightness.
16 The LORD also will roar from Zion, And utter His voice from Jerusalem; The heavens and earth will shake; But the LORD will be a shelter for His people, And the strength of the children of Israel.
yes, it will be a terrible destruction. According to the Bible, if the blood of those will die in the Tribulation wil be measured according to height, it will reach up to a horses bridle.
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Even radical shiite leader Mahmoud looking for & trying to hasten the coming of their messiah with fires across the world. -
There will be a false peace before the second coming. People will be eating & drinking & marrying & being given in marriage. & the end will come suddenly like a birth pang. This is a very dangerous attitude of yours.Originally posted by shade343:Be at peace. Those revelations of apocalypse and end times went off course a long time ago. The world has changed. Apocalypse has been averted and the world will never end. -
Really? The thing is, does worrying about apocalypse serve you in anyway? Arent you better of doing somethingelse more fruitful instead of hiding somewhere and cowering in fear consantly worrying about the end of the world? Are you at peace?Originally posted by Raptured:There will be a false peace before the second coming. People will be eating & drinking & marrying & being given in marriage. & the end will come suddenly like a birth pang. This is a very dangerous attitude of yours.
In the 1980s people say the world was going to end in the millenium. The world didnt end. The same people came up with more excuses and reasons to justify their cause and say that it might happen in the future. Do you think so? Like I said, biblical end times revelations of apocalypse expired a long time ago, the world will never end. The world has evolved, and humans, too, should also evolve together with the world. -
What's new? It's new age doctrine again. We dont evolve. We were created. Evolution goes against the 2nd law of thermodynamics.Originally posted by shade343:Really? The thing is, does worrying about apocalypse serve you in anyway? Arent you better of doing somethingelse more fruitful instead of hiding somewhere and cowering in fear consantly worrying about the end of the world? Are you at peace?
In the 1980s people say the world was going to end in the millenium. The world didnt end. The same people came up with more excuses and reasons to justify their cause and say that it might happen in the future. Do you think so? Like I said, biblical end times revelations of apocalypse expired a long time ago, the world will never end. The world has evolved, and humans, too, should also evolve together with the world. -
Evolve as in move forward. Not go back to being a barbarian.Originally posted by Raptured:What's new? It's new age doctrine again. We dont evolve. We were created. Evolution goes against the 2nd law of thermodynamics.
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I dont understand
If Antichrist is someone who claims to be a Christian and can perform miracles, why the talk keep harping on Mahmoud or President of EU Council? -
According to 2nd law of thermodynamics, the world is in the state of breaking down. So things will get more choatic as time passes. If not for the Holy Spirit, things will defintely spiral down more. It's like God imparting creative energy into the world to put things right. Like healing, deliverance, controlling lawlessness etc etc. One day Christians will be out of this world tog with the Holy Spirit, & that's when people become barbarians & things go out of control.Originally posted by shade343:Evolve as in move forward. Not go back to being a barbarian. -
Not claim to be Christian but claim to be Christ or Messiah or Saviour of the world.Originally posted by laurence82:I dont understand
If Antichrist is someone who claims to be a Christian and can perform miracles, why the talk keep harping on Mahmoud or President of EU Council? -
So by the rate the thread is going, the fake messiah must be a Muslim Iranian or a European elite huh?Originally posted by Raptured:Not claim to be Christian but claim to be Christ or Messiah or Saviour of the world.
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Most possibly.Originally posted by laurence82:So by the rate the thread is going, the fake messiah must be a Muslim Iranian or a European elite huh? -
Christians need a big mirror sometimes.Originally posted by Raptured:Most possibly. -
We are not perfect people ok?Originally posted by laurence82:Christians need a big mirror sometimes. -
Nobody is perfect, but just that it doesnt make sense why would an antichrist simply come from your own ranks.Originally posted by Raptured:We are not perfect people ok? -
It's possible, yes, that he may come from CHRISTENDOM but certainly not from CHRISTIANITY as so clearly revealed in the Bible. And since, we Christians believe in the Book.......we do not entertain the thought that antichrist will come from our ranks.Originally posted by laurence82:Nobody is perfect, but just that it doesnt make sense why would an antichrist simply come from your own ranks.
the two words are actually different as used originally.
many of our able expositors [of the Book] in the past believe that he will come from the city sitting on seven hills in Italy.
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also can mean someone who pretends to be devout christian
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The word 'anti' in the greek actually has two meanings:Originally posted by laurence82:also can mean someone who pretends to be devout christian
a) against
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b) instead of or in place of
now this is just my personal opinion [ i could be wrong and i am open for correction]:
Some Bible teachers say that the antiChrist will be someone whose actuations will be overtly and aggressively against Christ [basing on definition (a)] and he would be one also who will usurp and make himself Christ our Lord [definiton (b)].
My view however, is somewhat slightly different: I believe he is someone who will pretend to be Christ our Lord and decieve other people. No he will not be one who will openly speak and go against Christ our Lord. I'm focusing more on definiton b.
But he will be someone who is against our Lord in a sense that he consciously makes himself the Christ when in fact he knows he is not. Much like a man who pretends to be a father of a particular child......no he does not go against the father of the child violently and virulently but by pretending to be the father of the child he in a way goes against the real father.
And so about your statement, i think he will not be one who pretends to be a devout Christian. Because "Christian" means a follower of Christ. He does not pretend to be a follower of Christ. No. He claims that he is Christ, the one who should be followed.