Heretic Test
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You scored as Nestorianism.
You are a Nestorian. You hold that Jesus is two distinct persons, one human and one divine, sometimes acting out of one nature, and sometimes out of the other. Rejected by the Council of Ephesus in 431, but persisted until the middle ages. -
Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:at least your cathecism taught you well. my brother got Nestorianism.
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Thank you. Dont have to laugh so loud. Anyway, this is my new nick cos kena banned.Originally posted by M©+square:Congrats!
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kena banned by whom? and why?
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Originally posted by Chin Eng:kena banned by whom? and why?
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I go and advertise MLM lah. Then kena banned loh.Originally posted by Chin Eng:kena banned by whom? and why?
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Eh? I didnt see your post in MLM forum. You posted in Marketplace har?
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Sure or not???? Which thread???Originally posted by Repented John 2:I go and advertise MLM lah. Then kena banned loh. -
whats a divine logos
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Originally posted by Repented John 2:I go and advertise MLM lah. Then kena banned loh. Really? So severe ah?
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Divine WORD.Originally posted by dumbdumb!:whats a divine logos
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Whoa, it appears that many Catholics in this forum know their theology, perhaps better than the Protestants here.
Perhaps it's because many Protestant Churches has failed to recite the Apostle's Creed ( I believe ). Many chruches had even done away with this Creed..........which is central to the Christian Faith..........very sad.
( I speak as an Evangelical Protestant ) -
lol, there are even Protestant experts in Catholic theology...Originally posted by Dr Who:Whoa, it appears that many Catholics in this forum know their theology, perhaps better than the Protestants here.
Perhaps it's because many Protestant Churches has failed to recite the Apostle's Creed ( I believe ). Many chruches had even done away with this Creed..........which is central to the Christian Faith..........very sad.
( I speak as an Evangelical Protestant )
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Catholic theology?
The word should be Christian Theology ( remember the heretic test lah)........Protestants did not exist for the first 1400 years of Christian history. In fact, Martin Luther did not want to leave the Catholic Church at all. he merely wanted to reform the Church because of unholy money making schemes within the Church hierachy. (Sale of Indulgences)....
Catholic belief in the area of Transubstantiation, Immaculate Conception, and Mary as Mediatrix were recent developments in the catholic Church which distinguishes the RC from the Protestant. But we share a common heiritage in doctrine as put forth in the Apostle's Creed, the Nicene Creed and the Atanasus Creed.
(but alas, the modern independant churches had forgotten their roots....)_ -
transubstantiation is not a catholic invention!! it has always been there!Originally posted by Dr Who:Catholic theology?
The word should be Christian Theology ( remember the heretic test lah)........Protestants did not exist for the first 1400 years of Christian history. In fact, Martin Luther did not want to leave the Catholic Church at all. he merely wanted to reform the Church because of unholy money making schemes within the Church hierachy. (Sale of Indulgences)....
Catholic belief in the area of Transubstantiation, Immaculate Conception, and Mary as Mediatrix were recent developments in the catholic Church which distinguishes the RC from the Protestant. But we share a common heiritage in doctrine as put forth in the Apostle's Creed, the Nicene Creed and the Atanasus Creed.
(but alas, the modern independant churches had forgotten their roots....)_ -
Martin Luther did not want to leave the R. C. church at first yes because he wanted reforms. But his desired reforms is not concentrated on one thing only like indulgences. Remember the 95 theses he nailed to the door. Those were points of disagreements Luther had with the R.C. church.Originally posted by Dr Who:Catholic theology?
The word should be Christian Theology ( remember the heretic test lah)........Protestants did not exist for the first 1400 years of Christian history. In fact, Martin Luther did not want to leave the Catholic Church at all. he merely wanted to reform the Church because of unholy money making schemes within the Church hierachy. (Sale of Indulgences)....
Catholic belief in the area of Transubstantiation, Immaculate Conception, and Mary as Mediatrix were recent developments in the catholic Church which distinguishes the RC from the Protestant. But we share a common heiritage in doctrine as put forth in the Apostle's Creed, the Nicene Creed and the Atanasus Creed.
(but alas, the modern independant churches had forgotten their roots....)_
His major reformation agenda were:
1) Justification by faith alone
2 the priesthood of all belivers
3) The Bible as the sole authority for faith and practice.
The doctrine of indulgences directly opposed that of justification by faith alone that's why he opposed it. -
the biblical proof?Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:transubstantiation is not a catholic invention!! it has always been there! -
My score : Monarchianism
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My post in MLM got deleted. Funny they dont allow ads.Originally posted by laurence82:Eh? I didnt see your post in MLM forum. You posted in Marketplace har? -
abide with forums rule....you'll stay longer.Originally posted by Repented John 2:My post in MLM got deleted. Funny they dont allow ads. -
Then how come now got banned again?Originally posted by Repented John 2:My post in MLM got deleted. Funny they dont allow ads. -
The apostles at the last supper were not eating mere bread. They were eating the bread from heaven!Originally posted by Ironside:the biblical proof?
"And he took bread, and when he had given thanks he broke it and gave it to them, saying, ‘This is my body which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me’" (Luke 22:19). -
How many clones is JTB going to come up with? Is there going to be a Repented John III?Originally posted by laurence82:Then how come now got banned again? -
Originally posted by Dr Who:Whoa, it appears that many Catholics in this forum know their theology, perhaps better than the Protestants here.
Perhaps it's because many Protestant Churches has failed to recite the Apostle's Creed ( I believe ). Many chruches had even done away with this Creed..........which is central to the Christian Faith..........very sad.
( I speak as an Evangelical Protestant )
Personal Interpretation, basically my understanding are these,
The Apostles' Creed
The basic creed of Reformed churches, as most familiarly known, is called the Apostles' Creed. It has received this title because of its great antiquity; it dates from very early times in the Church, a half century or so from the last writings of the New Testament.
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I believe in God, the Father Almighty,
the Creator of heaven and earth,
and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord:
Who was conceived of the Holy Spirit,
born of the Virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried.
He descended into hell.
The third day He arose again from the dead.
He ascended into heaven
and sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty,
whence He shall come to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy *catholic church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and life everlasting.
Amen.
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*The word "catholic" refers not to the Roman Catholic Church, but to the universal church of the Lord Jesus Christ.
1) The trinity nature of God
2) The death and resurrection of Christ
3) Christ having resurrected, now sits at the right hand of God, both as our High Priest and Mediator
4) The presthood of the believers
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and that's the proof of transubtanstiation?Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:The apostles at the last supper were not eating mere bread. They were eating the bread from heaven!
"And he took bread, and when he had given thanks he broke it and gave it to them, saying, ‘This is my body which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me’" (Luke 22:19).
When he said: 'this is my body' was he not referring to his body that is about to be crucified in Calvary? He was using a figure of speech my friend. Just like when He said: "I am the door, anyone who enters in Me shall be saved" Does it mean then that He transubtatiated into a literal door or something?
Where in those verses does it say that the bread transubtantiated into the body of Christ?
The bread from heaven is the one sitting in the table holding the bread giving it to His disciples.
Here's the complete version:
Mt 26:26 And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, blessed and broke it, and gave it to the disciples and said, "Take, eat; this is My body."
27 Then He took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you.
28 "For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Mt 26:29 "But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father's kingdom."
Was the Lord's blood shed at that time or later on the cross? Later of course as we know it. How come that His blood was shed? Because His body was broken on the cross later when He was crucified. The Lord was speaking ANTICIPATIVELY of His death on the cross.
Furthermore the Lord said :'this fruit of the vine' referring to the content of the cup He was holding.
The account of Paul with regards to the Lord's supper makes it more plain that the Lord was talking figuratively:
1Co 11:25 In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me."
Are we to understand that the New Covenant is inside the cup literally and anyone who drinks from that cup drinks in literally the New Covenant?