How do you know if its a Miracle & not Coincidence???
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Yes, as per my above topic. What's the difference?
eg...u request for something & ur request is being granted -
if you are a christian everything good is a miracle.
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Here's my two cent opinion. I think a miracle is something that defies natural laws while a coincidence doesn't have to be natural-law defying.Originally posted by babyys:Yes, as per my above topic. What's the difference?
eg...u request for something & ur request is being granted
But rest assured that all answers to godly prayer [prayer that is in accordance to His will by a Christian] is from God. Whether God answers it in a miraculous way or 'coincidentally'.
Remeber all things happen by the Providence of God. -
including the bad things?Originally posted by Ironside:Here's my two cent opinion. I think a miracle is something that defies natural laws while a coincidence doesn't have to be natural-law defying.
But rest assured that all answers to godly prayer [prayer that is in accordance to His will by a Christian] is from God. Whether God answers it in a miraculous way or 'coincidentally'.
Remeber all things happen by the Providence of God. -
including many people's refusal to believe in him?Originally posted by Ironside:Remeber all things happen by the Providence of God. -
Where is Mc2? You are right .. this topic comes out directly or indirectly once in a whileOriginally posted by UandMe:including many people's refusal to believe in him?
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Ironside .. you land yourself in a soup this time.Originally posted by dragg:including the bad things? -
Originally posted by Icemoon:Where is Mc2? You are right .. this topic comes out directly or indirectly once in a while
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Another ambiguous question.Originally posted by babyys:Yes, as per my above topic. What's the difference?
eg...u request for something & ur request is being granted
Better to give an example then discuss... -
It's God's timing whether you received what you'd asked for.Originally posted by babyys:Yes, as per my above topic. What's the difference?
eg...u request for something & ur request is being granted -
Ge 50:20 "But as for you, you meant evil against me; but God meant it for good, in order to bring it about as it is this day, to save many people alive.Originally posted by dragg:including the bad things?
Joseph was a good young man. but bad things happened in his life. He got betrayed by his brothers. sold as a slave, falsely accused of rape, imprisoned.
From from first glance, all things were against Joseph but all these things God allowed to happen to train him and to prepare him for saving his people his kindred.
Ro 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose.
The situational background of Romans 8:28 was that the Romans was under persecution and suffering. Paul says ALL THINGS [and that includes sufferings] work together for good to those who love God.
God can even use bad things for our benefit. In God's economy things whether bad or good happens for our good. What good?
reading the context.....all things work together for good why? God is working all things [good or bad] to make us more conformed to the image of His Son the Lord Jesus Christ.
NOw, that to me is good indeed. I will be like my Lord. -
God in His sovereignty allowed man to be a free agent. He sovereignly gave man a choice.Originally posted by UandMe:including many people's refusal to believe in him?
Was the crucfiction of the Lord Jesus God's will ? Yes and No.
No. because it is God's preceptive will not to crucify an innocent man. Yes, becuase God in His soveriegnty allowed it to happen. -
wait pple say you never ans the qn.Originally posted by Ironside:God in His sovereignty allowed man to be a free agent. He sovereignly gave man a choice.
Was the crucfiction of the Lord Jesus God's will ? Yes and No.
No. because it is God's preceptive will not to crucify an innocent man. Yes, becuase God in His soveriegnty allowed it to happen.
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so clever.Originally posted by Icemoon:wait pple say you never ans the qn. -
Hmm, i saw one similar topic in Islam forum too.
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=171353 -
Exterminate all the believers
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He soveriengly allowed man to be a free agent. People reject Him because God allowed them to. He gave them a choice. He respects that choice whatever that may be.Originally posted by Icemoon:wait pple say you never ans the qn.
The will of God can be divided into three: a) sovereign [decretive] will b) permissive will c) preceptive will.
That question if it is God's will that man reject him falls under letter b.
Is it God's will that man reject Him?' NO [preceptive will]
'But why is it that there are people who reject Him?' permissive will
'But why can people reject Him if He is almighty?' Sovereign decretive will.
all things happen by the Providence of God. -
Exterminate maggot first. Let's do it now.Originally posted by maggot:Exterminate all the believers -
You are the killer boss .. you start firstOriginally posted by Honeybunz:Exterminate maggot first. Let's do it now. -
by definition, a miracle is something that is unexpected, and supernatual, so cannot be a coincidence.Originally posted by babyys:Yes, as per my above topic. What's the difference?
eg...u request for something & ur request is being granted
example in the bible are when Jesus make the Blind see, the lame walk ...etc
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actually, its more like everything good is a blessing (not necessary a miracle)Originally posted by dragg:if you are a christian everything good is a miracle.
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I dont think so. Life itself is a miracle.Originally posted by Ironside:Here's my two cent opinion. I think a miracle is something that defies natural laws while a coincidence doesn't have to be natural-law defying.
But rest assured that all answers to godly prayer [prayer that is in accordance to His will by a Christian] is from God. Whether God answers it in a miraculous way or 'coincidentally'.
Remeber all things happen by the Providence of God. -
Originally posted by Ironside:
Amen. Going thru suffering also a miracle.
Ge 50:20 "[b]But as for you, you meant evil against me; but God meant it for good, in order to bring it about as it is this day, to save many people alive.
Joseph was a good young man. but bad things happened in his life. He got betrayed by his brothers. sold as a slave, falsely accused of rape, imprisoned.
From from first glance, all things were against Joseph but all these things God allowed to happen to train him and to prepare him for saving his people his kindred.
Ro 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose.
The situational background of Romans 8:28 was that the Romans was under persecution and suffering. Paul says ALL THINGS [and that includes sufferings] work together for good to those who love God.
God can even use bad things for our benefit. In God's economy things whether bad or good happens for our good. What good?
reading the context.....all things work together for good why? God is working all things [good or bad] to make us more conformed to the image of His Son the Lord Jesus Christ.
NOw, that to me is good indeed. I will be like my Lord.
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Originally posted by Repented John:Amen. Going thru suffering also a miracle.
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lol .. those in the new-age charismatic churches wun agree with you.Originally posted by Repented John:Amen. Going thru suffering also a miracle.