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Who rip apart the emotional niceties? U or christians? And please do not tell christians how to preach or evangelise. If u do not like christians to preach to u, u can ignore them. Dun accuse them of saying that u r going to hell. Ultimately, we all answer to god ourselves.Originally posted by laurence82:Wait wait, what evangelising again? Which post u referring to?
The bashing on belief part, refer to my post to brey early this morning abt ripping apart all the emotional niceties.
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Oh? So thats considered bashing?Originally posted by laoda99:U are certainly bashing. Reflect upon yourself before u accuse christians of condemning u. U already condemned urself.
Let me give you am example of what is bashing my dear child.
Example 1
laoda99 is a Big Bastard
Example 2
laoda99 is a Sucker.
Example 3
laoda99 is a childish son of a *****
The above 3 examples are clear examples of bashing.
Do you now understand my dear child?
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Originally posted by shade343:
It is ok. Laoda99 is only a nick.
Oh? So thats considered bashing?
Let me give you am example of what is bashing my dear child.
Example 1
laoda99 is a Big [b]Bastard
Example 2
laoda99 is a Sucker.
Example 3
laoda99 is a childish son of a *****
The above 3 examples are clear examples of bashing.
Do you now understand my dear child?[/b]
You can say all u want. And do not blame christians if u really want to go to hell. You make the choice. You answer for it. -
SEE! You are now telling me that I will go to hell.Originally posted by laoda99:It is ok. Laoda99 is only a nick.
You can say all u want. And do not blame christians if u really want to go to hell. You make the choice. You answer for it. -
If u really want to go, nobody can stop u. And please dun blame the christians. Christians are not god, no matter what Christians say u will not go anywhere. But God will judge u.Originally posted by shade343:SEE! You are now telling me that I will go to hell. -
Sheesh, looks like somebody still choose not to understannd what is bashing people for their actions and what is bashing people for who they are, what are their beliefs.
Trying to twist the whole thing into a bash party when i had already explained the bashing for what purpose.
You got your beliefs, we got ours, we as regulars including the threadstarter do know the answers to an already often asked question. This is where we bash people for their actions, not who they are or what they believe in. Why bring up this topic? laoda himself admitted its a flamebait. So why back to this discussion about bashing since you know what flamebait usually entails.
My answers to brey's 'encouragement' and 'reassurance' is that it doesnt fit. Rip apart all the emotional niceties, you are back to the question You are still trying to tell people what will happen to non believers. The problem has been that rather than cooling the heat, the mod has done a bad job controlling a flammable topic. -
wait wait. You are contradicting yourself.Originally posted by laoda99:If u really want to go, nobody can stop u. And please dun blame the christians. Christians are not god, no matter what Christians say u will not go anywhere. But God will judge u. So now you are saying that what christians say is untrue? -
U got ur beliefs, I have got mine. I have never challenged ur beliefs and I hope u can respect what christians believed in.Originally posted by laurence82:Sheesh, looks like somebody still choose not to understannd what is bashing people for their actions and what is bashing people for who they are, what are their beliefs.
Trying to twist the whole thing into a bash party when i had already explained the bashing for what purpose.
You got your beliefs, we got ours, we as regulars including the threadstarter do know the answers to an already often asked question. This is where we bash people for their actions, not who they are or what they believe in. Why bring up this topic? laoda himself admitted its a flamebait. So why back to this discussion about bashing since you know what flamebait usually entails.
My answers to brey's 'encouragement' and 'reassurance' is that it doesnt fit. Rip apart all the emotional niceties, you are back to the question You are still trying to tell people what will happen to non believers. The problem has been that rather than cooling the heat, the mod has done a bad job controlling a flammable topic.
So far in this thread no christian has ask u to go to hell. And please do not teach christians how to preach and whether or not to evangelise. Singapore is a multi-racial/religious country where christians are free to evangelise. If u do not like the way pple preach to u, u can fully ignore it. Nobody will say u are going to hell, becoz ultimately, Christians are not the one who decide where u are going. -
Last post to u: u decide where u want to go. Nobody can decide for u.Originally posted by shade343:wait wait. You are contradicting yourself. So now you are saying that what christians say is untrue? -
Yes, I WILL tell Christians how not evangelise. As a non believer, I will NOT stand being drowned in saliva. I will NOT allow people to think they can say whatever they like and use thier religion as a cover.Originally posted by laoda99:Who rip apart the emotional niceties? U or christians? And please do not tell christians how to preach or evangelise. If u do not like christians to preach to u, u can ignore them. Dun accuse them of saying that u r going to hell. Ultimately, we all answer to god ourselves.
And seriously, your last sentence is a stupid thing to say to a non believers. WHat jars non believers so much? Do you all know, or choose not to know, or know but just want to do it? -
Duh. Isnt it obvious? So stop telling people that non believers will go to hell. For simply, that isnt true.Originally posted by laoda99:Last post to u: u decide where u want to go. Nobody can decide for u. -
Again, from my earlier posts, and for the nth time, if you still choose not to read or understand my post on bashing, forget it. I wont talk further to people in self denial mode. The worse thing, and i dont understand, and its pretty irksome, its that you keep harping on evangelism.Originally posted by laoda99:U got ur beliefs, I have got mine. I have never challenged ur beliefs and I hope u can respect what christians believed in.
So far in this thread no christian has ask u to go to hell. And please do not teach christians how to preach and whether or not to evangelise. Singapore is a multi-racial/religious country where christians are free to evangelise. If u do not like the way pple preach to u, u can fully ignore it. Nobody will say u are going to hell, becoz ultimately, Christians are not the one who decide where u are going.
Stop using the right to evangelise as your cover. There is a limit to evangelism. Sheesh, why must we stand by and ignore while standing there is somebody condemning us to hell, starting a flammable topics, inciting hate etc etc
Why must non Christians be the one tolerating it all? This doesnt fit. It doesnt make sense one party is allowed to do anything it wants under the cover of religion while the other party tolerates. If as a Buddhist, as a Hindu, as Sikh, we are told god and jesus christ is the only way, we are not supposed to feel offended? You want us to respect your belief, where is your respect towards our beliefs but uttering these words? You know different faith preaches different stuff, you can tell us different things from our beliefs and expect us to swallow it or ignore it?
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laoda99,
every christian has to preach the gospel, like it or not. it is normal to get such reactions or responses from non-believers. if that is how you normal react i suggest you stay out of such discussions. -
Stay cool. Learn from Ironside and CE.Originally posted by dragg:laoda99,
every christian has to preach the gospel, like it or not. it is normal to get such reactions or responses from non-believers. if that is how you normal react i suggest you stay out of such discussions. -
The Don is always cool in movies deOriginally posted by Icemoon:Stay cool. Learn from Ironside and CE. -
exactly.Originally posted by Icemoon:Stay cool. Learn from Ironside and CE.
never mind if a christian cannot convinced others about christianity, it is important to at least not estranged them. -
Big sheesh to u. You are the one who started the word "evangelise" in this post.Originally posted by laurence82:Again, from my earlier posts, and for the nth time, if you still choose not to read or understand my post on bashing, forget it. I wont talk further to people in self denial mode. The worse thing, and i dont understand, and its pretty irksome, its that you keep harping on evangelism.
Stop using the right to evangelise as your cover. There is a limit to evangelism. Sheesh, why must we stand by and ignore while standing there is somebody condemning us to hell, starting a flammable topics, inciting hate etc etc
Why must non Christians be the one tolerating it all? This doesnt fit. It doesnt make sense one party is allowed to do anything it wants under the cover of religion while the other party tolerates. If as a Buddhist, as a Hindu, as Sikh, we are told god and jesus christ is the only way, we are not supposed to feel offended? You want us to respect your belief, where is your respect towards our beliefs but uttering these words? You know different faith preaches different stuff, you can tell us different things from our beliefs and expect us to swallow it or ignore it?
Big sheesh to this
Has anyone forced their beliefs to u here? Who's inciting hate here? Who has an axe to grind with christians?Originally posted by laurence82:Your last para is void, because it is contradictory. You actually mean being a non believer is allright? Either you have to bash or you dont. If not, dont evangelise then.
U choose to come to Eternal Hope (a christian forum) urself, make up a big hoo ha abt who is going to hell and accuse christians of forcing their beliefs on u.
And stop blaming the mods. U know u are at fault for being so pushy.
Whenever an unbeliever come to a christian forum and make trouble, it is always the christian's fault. This is sheer nonsense.
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yeah rite, after reading all the comments, looks who's talkingOriginally posted by laoda99:Big sheesh to u. You are the one who started the word "evangelism" in this post.
Has anyone forced their beliefs to u here? Who's inciting hate here? Who has an axe to grind with christians?
u choose to come to Eternal Hope (a christian forum) urself, make up a big hoo ha abt who is going to hell and accuse christians of forcing their beliefs on u.
shame on u.
where in my original posts talk about evangelism?
Stop putting words into my mouth. Already I had pointed that you went out of sync with my posts, since it were those you harped on. Sheesh.
Shame on you for twisting words. On one hand you admitted this topic is a flamebait and on the other keeps talking about evangelism, coming to forum to make trouble
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I already quoted ur original posts. U can deny it if u want.Originally posted by laurence82:yeah rite, after reading all the comments, looks who's talking
where in my original posts talk about evangelism?
Stop putting words into my mouth. Already I had pointed that you went out of sync with my posts, since it were those you harped on. Sheesh.
Shame on you for twisting words. On one hand you admitted this topic is a flamebait and on the other keeps talking about evangelism, coming to forum to make trouble
Either you are twisting my words or you are blind and contradictory to your points.Originally posted by laurence82:
If you cannot agree with what the bible says, so be it. Nobody will force it down ur throat.
Your last para is void, because it is contradictory. You actually mean being a non believer is allright? Either you have to bash or you dont. If not, dont evangelise then.
If u have an axe to grind with christians, do it to those who said in ur face that u are going to hell.
Just dun come to a christian forum and start accusing everyone. I do not see it as a place conveniently for u to vent your frustrations on christians. -
If you do not want to admit, stop this 'making trouble' thing. Its just an excuse to brush away people who pointed out the contradictions in your posts.Originally posted by laoda99:If you cannot agree with what the bible says, so be it. Nobody will force it down ur throat.
If u have an axe to grind with christians, do it to those who said in ur face that u are going to hell.
Just dun come to a christian forum and make trouble.
Why so afraid of criticisms?
Again, I have never talked about pushing beliefs down people throat, From your endless harping on evangelism, I was pointing out the fact non believers dont have to tolerate all your nonsense in the name of evangelism.
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Nobody is afraid of criticism. But the fact is u only come here to "criticize" and not to learn abt Christ. Your intention is as doubtful as the one who post this question. If you are really here to learn abt Christ, we can share. If not, I am not interested to waste my time arguing with u.Originally posted by laurence82:If you do not want to admit, stop this 'making trouble' thing. Its just an excuse to brush away people who pointed out the contradictions in your posts.
Why so afraid of criticisms?
Again, I have never talked about pushing beliefs down people throat, From your endless harping on evangelism, I was pointing out the fact non believers dont have to tolerate all your nonsense in the name of evangelism.
Again, please stop twisting my word. Who is getting rather personal here?
As I have said, this is a Christian forum. If you are anti-christian and do not want to learn abt Christ, I would say this is not the place for u. You do not come here WILLINGLY and then say pple push the gospel down your throat.
I never twist your words. Let your posts prove itself. It is obvious u have an axe to grind with christians. Do it to those who tell u "GO TO HELL!".
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Well, if you, tom, dick or harry just want to see people as troublemakers, I will not stand to correct or debate with you. Its pointless. As long as i see my posts not clearly refuted, my posts get twisted etc etc, my stance, my belief about your character, what you are trying to do or imply, still stand.
Even you had admiited this topic is a flamebait, and as proven way before, the reactions came in torrents.
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Nothing. I am going out for Christmas party. Merry Christmas and have a nice day!Originally posted by laurence82:Well, if you, tom, dick or harry just want to see people as troublemakers, I will not stand to correct or debate with you. Its pointless. As long as i see my posts not clearly refuted, my posts get twisted etc etc, my stance, my belief about your character, what you are trying to do or imply, still stand.
Even you had admiited this topic is a flamebait, and as proven way before, the reactions came in torrents.
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It fits in to the God of judgement... which He is as well.Originally posted by shade343:How does condemning non chrstians to hell fit into the love of GOd? It doesnt make sense. Even your logic will tell you this.