Unbelieving loved ones
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Amen!Originally posted by breytonhartge:The bible says you cannot serve two masters, either you will hate one and love the other... if you are a Christian, the other side should never hold any water... if you want to be for Christ, you have to go all out and be on fire for Him, because it also does say that either you be hot or cold, if you are lukewarm, God will spit you out... -
Answer the question, rather than mulling over what or who icemoon is. SheeshOriginally posted by laoda99:either Icemoon got split personality or he is just undecided =) -
according to jtb ,its godOriginally posted by dragg:compassionate?
then who allowed tsunami? satan again?
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is it your view or someone's else?Originally posted by dragg:i am saying it from a non-believer's point of view.
why dont you read from the beginning of the thread to understand the text better?
what you believe doesnt make it real, at least not to non-believers.
sometimes i don't understand what u write also -
your notion is that if god exist then there would be no sufferingOriginally posted by dragg:compassionate?
then who allowed tsunami? satan again?
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I have read the thread again and I have not seen any christian condemning unbelievers to hell.Originally posted by laurence82:Really? More often than not, christians have the tendency to bash unbelievers for who they are, note, not what they done. Look at this thread, condemning unbelievers to hell while not looking at their own group. I think icemoon and some had already pointed it out on the first page abt looking at unbelievers solely.
Compare this with topics like the Scrutinising the Scriptures, started in Chit Chat, where the topic is focused on what christians have done, not who they are.
Bashing for what purpose is the key. Second point, like i said, we all know the answers, fallin isnt a newbie, the outcome usually end up like this. Therefore, i question the purpose of setting up such a thread.
If its not for the purpose of bashing non believers for what they dont believe in, then what? A nice tea session?
I also question the purpose of such thread. It looks like a flame bait.
I think breyton has given the best answers for this thread. -
anyway, nobody want to answer the hard questions
time for my outing liao
merry xmas -
merry xmasOriginally posted by laurence82:anyway, nobody want to answer the hard questions
time for my outing liao
merry xmas
i don't really know what is your hard question also.
What I do not know I will not answer =) -
For someone's visual handicap
Secondly, contradiction within one post. If this thread is flame bait as you admitted, cant you see the line in which the flame would come?Originally posted by fallin:How do you reconcile yourself with the fact that the people you love which don't believe are going to spend eternity in hell?Originally posted by laoda99:I have read the thread again and I have not seen any christian condemning unbelievers to hell.
I also question the purpose of such thread. It looks like a flame bait.
I think breyton has given the best answers for this thread. -
You cannot see or you dont want to see?Originally posted by laoda99:merry xmas
i don't really know what is your hard question also.
What I do not know I will not answer =) -
there are so many sufferings and deaths, yet you opined that God is compassionate is even more flawed.Originally posted by laoda99:your notion is that if god exist then there would be no suffering
this is seriously flawed -
For someone's visual handicap
hmmm....i tot ur question is abt object permanence which I sure know nuts about.....
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Originally posted by fallin:
How do you reconcile yourself with the fact that the people you love which don't believe are going to spend eternity in hell?
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Secondly, contradiction within one post. If this thread is flame bait as you admitted, cant you see the line in which the flame would come?
I would agree with ironside's views in page 1 for this....haven u read?
All I see in this thread is the flame is coming from non believers while breyton and others are trying their best to answer. And please note that they are only christians, not god..... -
I still say sufferings and deaths does not mean that God does not exist.Originally posted by dragg:there are so many sufferings and deaths, yet you opined that God is compassionate is even more flawed.
Not just Christianity, but other faiths in the world will agree on this.
God is compassionate as well as just. All of us will be judged accordingly b4 him. -
Aiyo .. that one is shady not dragg ..Originally posted by laoda99:Not just Christianity, but other faiths in the world will agree on this. What is your Sai Baba stand on this? -
haha sorri.....he look like shadyOriginally posted by Icemoon:Aiyo .. that one is shady not dragg .. -
It is a big mistake of Brey to challenge unbelievers to look at the world and [automatically] realize God exists.Originally posted by laoda99:either Icemoon got split personality or he is just undecided =)
On the other hand, I reminded dragg (opps forgot he was a Christian) that Christianity is unlike other religions. -
no la .. shady is everything also can one.Originally posted by laoda99:haha sorri.....he look like shady
dragg .. I think he is more discerning .. but I seldom pay attention to him so I can't say much. -
sometimes i wish u can have a stand icemoonOriginally posted by Icemoon:It is a big mistake of Brey to challenge unbelievers to look at the world and [automatically] realize God exists.
On the other hand, I reminded dragg (opps forgot he was a Christian) that Christianity is unlike other religions.
can't be always half here half there....
hmm...did breyton ask unbelievers to look at the world? If he did, I think it is not a mistake. What is happening around the world are actually signs. -
other religion?Originally posted by laoda99:I still say sufferings and deaths does not mean that God does not exist.
Not just Christianity, but other faiths in the world will agree on this.
God is compassionate as well as just. All of us will be judged accordingly b4 him.
like what? -
Yeeeah...Originally posted by laoda99:I still say sufferings and deaths does not mean that God does not exist.
Not just Christianity, but other faiths in the world will agree on this.
God is compassionate as well as just. All of us will be judged accordingly b4 him.
Lot of folks who quote the compassionate of God always forget the justice of God.
On the topic: loved ones who do not wish to accept Christ? Their choice - I respect the choices of all individuals, as much as it pains me sometime. I will not and cannot change that choice. -
like i explained to my bro tat day....he cannot accept that a compassionate god will punish people....Originally posted by Chin Eng:Yeeeah...
Lot of folks who quote the compassionate of God always forget the justice of God.
On the topic: loved ones who do not wish to accept Christ? Their choice - I respect the choices of all individuals, as much as it pains me sometime. I will not and cannot change that choice.
talked to him abt justice of god also.... -
I recommend u Philip Yancey's Disappointment with GOD....it is a good readOriginally posted by dragg:there are so many sufferings and deaths, yet you opined that God is compassionate is even more flawed. -
Thank you!Originally posted by Ironside:Amen. Good counsel there brother. -
Shade,Originally posted by shade343:Are Christians SO FULL OF EGO AND ARROGANCE to say that non christians will got to hell?
it is not ego and arrogance, it is a blessed assurance that we will be in Heaven because Christ Himself becomes our righteousness. God accepts us not because of who we are, but because of who Jesus is. Our assurance that we will be in Heaven is based wholly on what Jesus did on the cross and the acceptance of this gift of God's GRACE, not our own works. -
If you believe that there is a God, and that God is real and what Jesus did for you is real, then focus on the Word and all that it says, the bible is our truth because it is God's word to us.Originally posted by dragg:frankly i believe there is a God but there is no way to prove it.
there are too many loopholes and unanswered questions.
I will pray for you bro, that you will be renewed in your spirit and your mind as well.