Unbelieving loved ones
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sorry i'm not clone of someone. i am myself
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Originally posted by laurence82:Go read Chin Eng's post on critical thinking in the thread about sins.
seemee tai chee???Originally posted by askxyz:Lao Jiao should provide links... 
All in all, having an argument here is to show off how critical one's thinking is? So what if I have critical thinking? So what if I don't have?
how about this link: http://www.dbu.edu/faculty/CriticalThinking.pdf#search='critical%20thinking%20for%20Christians' from Dallas Baptist University?
so much blood shed.... sigh
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That simply isnt the case. What makes you think that the love of God is so shallow that it is limited to that of christians only?Originally posted by breytonhartge:Trying to tell you about what is to come and how to avoid it so that you can go to Heaven as well.
However, If it serves those who believe it to do so, then I will honor their free choice. They are looking for the same divine answers that I am. However, at some point "spiritual common sense" has to also be honored for you to perhaps consider an alternate. -
You can see him at Jurong Point Zone X. I have yet to say "hi" to him.Originally posted by laurence82:I am always tempted to ask whose clone are u -
I go bible study to learn more abt the word of GOD.Originally posted by laurence82:Ok here goes, and you go to bible study for....?
Sometimes u read on ur own and u do not understand. In BS we are able to discuss. -
Ya...he understand liaoz.Originally posted by laoda99:I go bible study to learn more abt the word of GOD.
Sometimes u read on ur own and u do not understand. In BS we are able to discuss.
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Hmm...think u like ambiguity also....dun like to answer direct....dun like to answer "YES" or "NO"Originally posted by M©+square:http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=169241I hate posting my own thread.
If you can see where i'm coming from. Good for you.
But if you don't. Then you missed it.
What do you mean by equal grounds?
Think I have missed it. U and Icemoon sometimes sound like believers, but u claimed u are not. Think ur faith is "ambiguity".
Equal grounds = if i know what ur faith is, we will be able to discuss from ur perspective. If not, I will still be confused by u and Icemoon. -
U pursue more knowledge from scripture to mock Christians/attack Christianity.Originally posted by laurence82:Can you then see a big contradiction in laoda's points in the overall debate with me?
My point was, if knowledge isnt important, why pursue it in the first place? If pursued, why are debates and even further pursuit not be important?
It also lead on to, what is the pursuit of knowledge hopes to achieve?
Questions questions questions
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U got me....Originally posted by M©+square:It does somehow contridicts.
But because he believes in his salvation, that's why he wish to get into the knowledge of understanding certain aspects of belief.
In respond to your context.
It's because you do not believe in salvation thru Christ.
So he explained that no matter how much knowledge you have, it doesn't amount to salvation until you have decided to believe in Christ.
In short : He's saying, it's no point for a non believe to have so much knowledge of Christianity yet do not believe. -
ambiguity? Errr...ok.Originally posted by laoda99:Hmm...think u like ambiguity also....dun like to answer direct....dun like to answer "YES" or "NO"
Think I have missed it. U and Icemoon sometimes sound like believers, but u claimed u are not. Think ur faith is "ambiguity".
Equal grounds = if i know what ur faith is, we will be able to discuss from ur perspective. If not, I will still be confused by u and Icemoon. -
You dun believe in salvation. How to say anything in the context of the highlighted one?Originally posted by laurence82:Everything i said was in the context of the highlighted one
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I agreeOriginally posted by Icemoon:Now .. this is what I call a troublemaker.
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Hmm...I dun think u ever did look from a believer's POV.....true believers will never evangelise by telling pple to go to hell....he will tell pple about how god love u....Originally posted by laurence82:He really thinks i m bent on looking at everything from an unbeliever stance issit?
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True true....only True believers does that.Originally posted by laoda99:Hmm...I dun think u ever did look from a believer's POV.....true believers will never evangelise by telling pple to go to hell....he will tell pple about how god love u....
Not forgetting there are also True 'Fire and brimstone' believers.
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You see?Originally posted by laoda99:Hmm...think u like ambiguity also....dun like to answer direct....dun like to answer "YES" or "NO"
Think I have missed it. U and Icemoon sometimes sound like believers, but u claimed u are not. Think ur faith is "ambiguity".
Equal grounds = if i know what ur faith is, we will be able to discuss from ur perspective. If not, I will still be confused by u and Icemoon.
I'm not a Christian, i'm not constrained to defend any belief system. There is no need to answer direct because i'm not governed by the 'system'.
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Hmm...I dun think if u call urself a Christian u will be governed by the 'system'...Originally posted by M©+square:You see?
I'm not a Christian, i'm not constrained to defend any belief system. There is no need to answer direct because i'm not governed by the 'system'.
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Oh?Originally posted by laoda99:Hmm...I dun think if u call urself a Christian u will be governed by the 'system'...
We'll keep this term 'system' between us. In the following discussion/future discussions, we will see how much are you governed by the 'system'.
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Well, I used to be governed by the system, more interested in theology stuff and church politics rather than GOD's love.....Originally posted by M©+square:Oh?
We'll keep this term 'system' between us. In the following discussion/future discussions, we will see how much are you governed by the 'system'.
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No matter what, just remember this system thingy between us.Originally posted by laoda99:Well, I used to be governed by the system, more interested in theology stuff and church politics rather than GOD's love.....
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Samething, you are not nob believer, how to speak for them?Originally posted by laoda99:You dun believe in salvation. How to say anything in the context of the highlighted one?
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Oh, and you gladly accept anything there?Originally posted by laoda99:I go bible study to learn more abt the word of GOD.
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I gladly accept anything that makes my faith stronger.Originally posted by laurence82:Oh, and you gladly accept anything there?
If I find something in the bible which I am in doubt, I talked abt it to my BS teacher. Our group members also discuss about it. Our BS is systematic and we have good textbooks giving us questions for guidance.
I have also come to accept that not everything can be answered becoz our human understanding is limited.
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I am a baptised Christian.Originally posted by laurence82:Samething, you are not nob believer, how to speak for them? -
hurhur hur...Originally posted by laoda99:I am a baptised Christian.
this is getting funny.
Lau is saying you're not a Non believer.