Unbelieving loved ones
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How do you reconcile yourself with the fact that the people you love which don't believe are going to spend eternity in hell?
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That's a sobering thought there fallin. Many a time when i'm alone i cry in prayer for my mom's spiritual condition. i could not bear the thought of her spending eternity in the lake of fire. Not only her but also the rest of my family and friends.Originally posted by fallin:How do you reconcile yourself with the fact that the people you love which don't believe are going to spend eternity in hell?
But know that God will judge rightly. -
Ambiguous conclusion?Originally posted by Ironside:That's a sobering thought there fallin. Many a time when i'm alone i cry in prayer for my mom's spiritual condition. i could not bear the thought of her spending eternity in the lake of fire.
But know that God will judge rightly. -
whatever God does [even if He sends my love ones to hell], i know that it is just and right. His judgement is fair. He will not punish them for the things they did not do. In that, i rest and know that justice has been served [even though painful on my part].Originally posted by M©+square:Ambiguous conclusion? -
that is only a belief.Originally posted by fallin:How do you reconcile yourself with the fact that the people you love which don't believe are going to spend eternity in hell?
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can you prove it that nobody can prove it?Originally posted by dragg:that is only a belief.
nobody can prove it. -
nobody has proven it. so it remains unproven.Originally posted by Ironside:can you prove it that nobody can prove it?
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Is God so petty that he will let non-Christians go to hell?
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Is God so injustice that he let sinners go heaven?Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:Is God so petty that he will let non-Christians go to hell? -
Whose god?
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non-christian = sinner?Originally posted by Icemoon:Is God so injustice that he let sinners go heaven? -
of course, in xtian speak, we dont believe in christ mahOriginally posted by SingaporeMacross:non-christian = sinner? -
both parties cant prove anything. but the problem is the thread starter has to prove to his loved ones to make them believe.Originally posted by Ironside:can you prove it that nobody can prove it?
the thread starter cares but his loved ones dont. -
from what i know, no one on this earth has successfully proved the bible wrong before
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eh? source?Originally posted by crossover:from what i know, no one on this earth has successfully proved the bible wrong before -
but nobody can prove the most important point - that God exists.
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thanks for your subjective opinion and view. But you are not everybody my friend. I dont know about you, but to me it is clear as noonday that there is a God. He [God] proved it to me. The proof is as clear as noonday. I can see the prints of His hands everywhere including in myself day in day out.Originally posted by dragg:but nobody can prove the most important point - that God exists.
There is a person who can't seem to understand why others believe that there is a God. "Why do these people say that there is a God when clearly there is not."
And there are also classes of persons who cannot understand why those who don't believe that there is a God cannot believe that there is - no matter how he tries to believe and persuade himself that there is no God he just cannot because he just cannot escape the overwhelming evidence. "Why do these people say that there is no God when clearly there is."
Somebody said: Whereever there is a thing, there must have been a prededing thought.......and where there is a thought, there must have been a thinker."
Then someone will say: 'so if that logic be taken.......so who created God?'
That's another topic altogther.
bless you my friend
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i wont waste my time arguing.
believe what you want to believe. by the way you have digressed from the main topic. since you can prove it teach the threadstarter how to convince his loved ones.
btw who is subjective?
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All men have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:non-christian = sinner?
You are also a sinner .. dun forget .. but declared righteous based on Christ's work on Calvary. -
lol .. the point is bullshit 'cos God's existence must be taken on faith. The Bible says so.Originally posted by dragg:but nobody can prove the most important point - that God exists.
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dont other religion works the same way?Originally posted by Icemoon:lol .. the point is bullshit 'cos God's existence must be taken on faith. The Bible says so.
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Actually there is a difference, not sure if you've thought about it in your free time.Originally posted by dragg:dont other religion works the same way?
does that mean their God is real too?
The existence of the Christian God can be verified or refuted on the basis of history - on the claim that God became Man and dwelled among us. Can you find this in other religions? -
Have a good look around you and then tell me that God does not exist.Originally posted by dragg:but nobody can prove the most important point - that God exists. -
like you say, its a claim.Originally posted by Icemoon:Actually there is a difference, not sure if you've thought about it in your free time.
The existence of the Christian God can be verified or refuted on the basis of history - on the claim that God became Man and dwelled among us. Can you find this in other religions?
you mean just because there is claim it makes christianity real. moreover it only shows jesus exist, not God exist.