Original Sin (Of Angels and Man)
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I have a question.
It could be said that Man was created without sin. However, due to this serpent called Crafty (may not be Satan, but an instrument of Satan), sin entered into Man.
But what about angels? Who "tempted" Satan? Were not angels created perfect and holy? -
Don't be so bad la...
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Satan was a beautiful angel called Lucifer (before he fallen from grace). I guess there's other angels together with him.
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orh ok, take down note.Originally posted by klishcia:Satan was a beautiful angel called Lucifer (before he fallen from grace). I guess there's other angels together with him. 
Writes down: Lucifer was an angel of God and then became satan after he fell.
Regards
afternote: Wu Kong Kanna Boh kong -
Hmm, interesting qn
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Baal, Mephisto and Diablo! -
D2X???Originally posted by laurence82:Hmm, interesting qn
me now playing D2X
Baal, Mephisto and Diablo!
Nikon DSLR??? -
Diablo 2 Expansion...Originally posted by M©+square:D2X???
Nikon DSLR??? -
Knn, got shock for awhile!!!Originally posted by laurence82:Diablo 2 Expansion...
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same question on my head for a long time. cheersOriginally posted by Icemoon:I have a question.
It could be said that Man was created without sin. However, due to this serpent called Crafty (may not be Satan, but an instrument of Satan), sin entered into Man.
But what about angels? Who "tempted" Satan? Were not angels created perfect and holy?
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There's a cheemer version of it.Originally posted by freestyle:same question on my head for a long time. cheers -
anybody can answer?
like why god made satan even though he knew eventually satan was going to turn against him. And wad made satan turn against god if he was made sinless.
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The mystery of divine plan/ sovereign plan.Originally posted by freestyle:anybody can answer?
like why god made satan even though he knew eventually satan was going to turn against him. And wad made satan turn against god if he was made sinless. -
tell me!Originally posted by M©+square:There's a cheemer version of it.
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Difficult quesiton there since the Bible is silent on this one. Any answer on this one will be specaulative only. The qustion is interesting though. Been on my mind too.Originally posted by Icemoon:I have a question.
It could be said that Man was created without sin. However, due to this serpent called Crafty (may not be Satan, but an instrument of Satan), sin entered into Man.
But what about angels? Who "tempted" Satan? Were not angels created perfect and holy? -
Originally posted by Ironside:Difficult quesiton there since the Bible is silent on this one. Any answer on this one will be specaulative only. The qustion is interesting though. Been on my mind too.
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Well, I think Man will still sin without a tempter...so angels has the free will to sin too?
Anyhow hantum.
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yeah, really diffiucult.Originally posted by M©+square: -
Can i also have some questions for you, Icemoon.Originally posted by Icemoon:I have a question.
It could be said that Man was created without sin. However, due to this serpent called Crafty (may not be Satan, but an instrument of Satan), sin entered into Man.
But what about angels? Who "tempted" Satan? Were not angels created perfect and holy?
Your sentence - "Who tempted Satan?" - From which source did u come to a conclusion that Satan was "tempted?"
"Angels created perfect" - which biblical source said this ?
Another question - Do you think "Lucifer" mentioned in Isaiah 14:12 refers to Satan ?
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1. If Satan was not influenced by some external factors, how did He fall into sin? Isn't the same argument used on Eve? Eve was "tempted".Originally posted by klydeer:Your sentence - "Who tempted Satan?" - From which source did u come to a conclusion that Satan was "tempted?"
"Angels created perfect" - which biblical source said this ?
Another question - Do you think "Lucifer" mentioned in Isaiah 14:12 refers to Satan ?
2. Not perfect like God. But perfect as in good.
3. Not sure and no comments. -
Then why did God blame the poor snake?Originally posted by SocialOutcast:Well, I think Man will still sin without a tempter...so angels has the free will to sin too?
Anyhow hantum.
It remains unproven that Man will still sin without a tempter. I suppose Adam and Eve can remain naked for millions of years without feeling shameful, if not for that snake -
Hi Klydeer,Originally posted by klydeer:Do you think "Lucifer" mentioned in Isaiah 14:12 refers to Satan ?
Thank you.
Isaiah 14:12 (KJV Strong's version)
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning * ! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Strong's Number: 01966
Original Word
llyh
Word Origin
from (01984) (in the sense of brightness)
Definition
Lucifer = "light-bearer"
shining one, morning star, Lucifer
of the king of Babylon and Satan (fig.)
'Helel' describing the king of Babylon -
Mr SA tan's fall was not through temptation, it was through pride.
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similarly Eve's fall was not through temptation, it was through disobedience?Originally posted by breytonhartge:Mr SA tan's fall was not through temptation, it was through pride. -
So Satan is the source of evil and Eve the source of sin?
Or sin and evil are the same? -
tsk tsk tsk....you are very notti.Originally posted by laurence82:So Satan is the source of evil and Eve the source of sin?
Or sin and evil are the same?