Wats your take on speaking in tongues???
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For me its a form of edification, a direct communication wz our Lord w/out the interception of Mr. S. A. Tan and its also intercessory eg... say u know a friend has an issue but you do not know exactly wat it is, so i interceed in tongues.
Let me share a testimony. As i mentioned before i was quite a skeptic and a backslidden Christian before Christ saved me once again Amen to that! I was introduced into the charasmatic movement sometime in 2000. (before i was from the traditional or episcopal church) 1st time attended service pple were raising hands, speaking in tongues (yada yada yada blah blah blah). I was in culture shock and it kinda freaked me as well. Till I questioned God whether this is for real (God forgive me for questioning) and if it is, i also want it.
Since young have been taught that tongues, prophesy are all Gifts and not any Tom, Dick & Harry can receive. As the story goes, in 1 service there was a special speaker and as usual altar call was made and i took it. Told the pastor my heart's desire and he prayed for me. Next thing i knew a Really bright and i mean Bright light jus woosh & knocked me off my feet & my mouth started going gibberish.
To cut the long story short, being the skeptic that i was again i was not convinced and i wanted a confirmation, so i asked the preacher to interpret wat i was blabbering about. And Amazingly, he just interpreted every single tongue dat i spoke which were the exact tots dat were running thru my brains. I was dumpfounded & dared not doubt after. Amen to that! -
Originally posted by babyys:For me its a form of edification, a direct communication wz our Lord w/out the interception of Mr. S. A. Tan and its also intercessory eg... say u know a friend has an issue but you do not know exactly wat it is, so i interceed in tongues.
Let me share a testimony. As i mentioned before i was quite a skeptic and a backslidden Christian before Christ saved me once again Amen to that! I was introduced into the charasmatic movement sometime in 2000. (before i was from the traditional or episcopal church) 1st time attended service pple were raising hands, speaking in tongues (yada yada yada blah blah blah). I was in culture shock and it kinda freaked me as well. Till I questioned God whether this is for real (God forgive me for questioning) and if it is, i also want it.
Since young have been taught that tongues, prophesy are all Gifts and not any Tom, Dick & Harry can receive. As the story goes, in 1 service there was a special speaker and as usual altar call was made and i took it. Told the pastor my heart's desire and he prayed for me. Next thing i knew a Really bright and i mean Bright light jus woosh & knocked me off my feet & my mouth started going gibberish.
To cut the long story short, being the skeptic that i was again i was not convinced and i wanted a confirmation, so i asked the preacher to interpret wat i was blabbering about. And Amazingly, he just interpreted every single tongue dat i spoke which were the exact tots dat were running thru my brains. I was dumpfounded & dared not doubt after. Amen to that!
You speak in tongues with the thoughts in your mind? You mean you spoke in the 'spiritual language' and know what you're saying? -
Ok hmmm....how should i put it. U know sometimes u have 2 pray for something or someone & wen it comes out aloud all the words jus come out ALL WRONG its like your brain cannot co-ordinate wz your mouth, yup its the same wen i interceed in tongues, actually my brain is also running. Same thing. Get it?Originally posted by M©+square:
You speak in tongues with the thoughts in your mind? You mean you spoke in the 'spiritual language' and know what you're saying? -
hi..
personally have some issues with tongues previously too..
there are 2 skols of views on this..
anywaez.. while its gd to learn more abt it, it can also be a stumbling block for young christians in 1 way or another.
salvation and sharing the gospel is still the crux of it all.
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Absolutely don't get it.Originally posted by babyys:Ok hmmm....how should i put it. U know sometimes u have 2 pray for something or someone & wen it comes out aloud all the words jus come out ALL WRONG its like your brain cannot co-ordinate wz your mouth, yup its the same wen i interceed in tongues, actually my brain is also running. Same thing. Get it?
Example:
When you have a issue to pray for, you pray in whatever you know what to pray for. When you switch to tongues after that you've prayed in known language. You may have thought you're praying in tongues about that issue, but actually you're praying spiritual warfare and glorifying God.
You see?
You thought you've prayed/interceded so and so subject in tongues.
But since you do not understand tongues, you do not know what you're praying for.
Since tongues is the gift of the spirit. Only your spirit and heavenly beings understand the language. So you do not and cannot understand it.
Praying with understanding and understanding tongues are two totally different issues.
Unless another person beside you is given the gift of interpretation(or temporal ability to interprete)
Otherwise you may not understand the tongues. If you can understand tongues when you're praying, then it's not tongues.
Praying without understanding but to obey the will of God.
Example:
A old lady from Austria was called up in the middle of the night during winter to pray.
Pray for what? She don't know, but she prayed in tongues till morning then she went back to sleep.
One day, she visited a gathering. A Foreign preacher when to her town to share on the goodness of God.
He shared about a period of time in his life when he fell into depression, he wanted suicide. He asked God to show him the way. Somehow, he shared on the date and time of that incident which he recieved comfort and peace of God. He had a breakthrough that night and when into full time ministry after that crucial point of life.
After the gathering end, the old lady went up to this preacher and told him.
'I was awokened by the spirit at that very night you've mentioned, to pray, to pray for what i don't know. But i'm sure that my prayers got to God'
The preacher answered her.
'I was praying one day, and i was impressed by God to come here and speak of this incident which i never disclose to public. Now i know why.'
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My sister had an experience of speaking in tounge. And at one time there was a Pastor and he said he understood what my sister was saying. This happened a few years ago.
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Gibberish tongue cannot be verified.Originally posted by Li Ka Shing:My sister had an experience of speaking in tounge. And at one time there was a Pastor and he said he understood what my sister was saying. This happened a few years ago. -
Good morning!Originally posted by Icemoon:Gibberish tongue cannot be verified.
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The spiritual affair is judged only by God and no one has really a say on whether it is right or wrong.
Too bad, I am not a Christian nor a believer of God/Gods. -
Is Nelstar the Nelstar last time?
I thought she was a premier member last time? -
6 months expiry.Originally posted by Icemoon:Is Nelstar the Nelstar last time?
I thought she was a premier member last time?
Nelstar is always Nelstar. Fickle, crazy, intelligent, stupid and everything you think Nelstar is. Embodiment of such is a signature of Nelstar. -
I think you look better with your avatars.Originally posted by Nelstar:6 months expiry.
Nelstar is always Nelstar. Fickle, crazy, intelligent, stupid and everything you think Nelstar is. Embodiment of such is a signature of Nelstar. 
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watever it is i just accept by faith. No point doubting here and there. Wat i really yearn for is a closer relationship with our Almighty.Originally posted by M©+square:Absolutely don't get it.
Example:
When you have a issue to pray for, you pray in whatever you know what to pray for. When you switch to tongues after that you've prayed in known language. You may have thought you're praying in tongues about that issue, but actually you're praying spiritual warfare and glorifying God.
You see?
You thought you've prayed/interceded so and so subject in tongues.
But since you do not understand tongues, you do not know what you're praying for.
Since tongues is the gift of the spirit. Only your spirit and heavenly beings understand the language. So you do not and cannot understand it.
Praying with understanding and understanding tongues are two totally different issues.
Unless another person beside you is given the gift of interpretation(or temporal ability to interprete)
Otherwise you may not understand the tongues. If you can understand tongues when you're praying, then it's not tongues. Praying without understanding but to obey the will of God.
Example:
A old lady from Austria was called up in the middle of the night during winter to pray.
Pray for what? She don't know, but she prayed in tongues till morning then she went back to sleep.
One day, she visited a gathering. A Foreign preacher when to her town to share on the goodness of God.
He shared about a period of time in his life when he fell into depression, he wanted suicide. He asked God to show him the way. Somehow, he shared on the date and time of that incident which he recieved comfort and peace of God. He had a breakthrough that night and when into full time ministry after that crucial point of life.
After the gathering end, the old lady went up to this preacher and told him.
'I was awokened by the spirit at that very night you've mentioned, to pray, to pray for what i don't know. But i'm sure that my prayers got to God'
The preacher answered her.
'I was praying one day, and i was impressed by God to come here and speak of this incident which i never disclose to public. Now i know why.'
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When it comes to speaking in tongues, it is ultimately upto the particular believer as to whether he or she can accept it or not. There are enought arguments to field both sides.
Personally, I pray in tongues and believe that there is great benefit to be derived from praying in tongues.
Lets see what the bible says about this:
Mark 16:17 NKJV
17 And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues;
Acts 10:44-48 NKJV
44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who heard the word. 45 And those of the circumcision who believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues and magnify God.
Then Peter answered, 47 “Can anyone forbid water, that these should not be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?” 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then they asked him to stay a few days.
Which shows that speaking in tongues was also for the gentiles which is us non-jewish believers.
1 Corinthians 12: 28-31 NKJV
28 And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues. 29 Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are all workers of miracles? 30 Do all have gifts of healings? Do all speak with tongues? Do all interpret? 31 But earnestly desire the best[d] gifts. And yet I show you a more excellent way.
It can be seen from this verse that God appointed tongues for the church. Some may argue that this was for the church then and not now, but remember that our God is an unchanging God and is consistent in all He says or does. It also hints at that not all may speak in tongues, but it is a valid gift. Paul here says that to desire the gift. So if you want to speak in tongues you have to desire the gift first. God/The Holy Spirit is a gentleman, you will not speak in tongues unless you genuinely desire to, then go and ask God for this gift.
1 Corinthians 14: 1- 5 NKJV
1 Pursue love, and desire spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy. 2 For he who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God, for no one understands him; however, in the spirit he speaks mysteries. 3 But he who prophesies speaks edification and exhortation and comfort to men. 4 He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church. 5 I wish you all spoke with tongues, but even more that you prophesied; for[a] he who prophesies is greater than he who speaks with tongues, unless indeed he interprets, that the church may receive edification.
From this verse we see Pual telling us to desire spiritual gifts, and we see that when we speak in tongues, we speak to God and not men, and we speak mysteries. It is good for personal edification, but when interpreted in a church setting, it is good for all the church as all receive edification.
1 Corinthians 14: 22 NKJV
22 Therefore tongues are for a sign, not to those who believe but to unbelievers;
1 Corinthians 14: 39 NKJV
39 Therefore, brethren, desire earnestly to prophesy, and do not forbid to speak with tongues.
Hope that this gives you a biblical perspective on speaking in tongues. It is a gift from God, and we are to desire it, for personal edification and also desire the interpretation of tongues for the edification of the body of Chirst as a whole and even more than that, desire to prophesy which edifies the church! -
it is possible for us to speak in tongues and have an idea of what we are saying, I speak in tongues and I will be aware somtimes of what I am praying about in a general sense not specific, but like the bible says, each of us are unique in our gifting so it is possible to know exactly what we are praying in tongues if you ask God.Originally posted by M©+square:
You speak in tongues with the thoughts in your mind? You mean you spoke in the 'spiritual language' and know what you're saying? -
Salvation and sharing is one part of the crux, do you mean then that all should remain spiritual babies for all the time they are Christians? Even the Apostle Paul exhorted against this.Originally posted by choki:hi..
personally have some issues with tongues previously too..
there are 2 skols of views on this..
anywaez.. while its gd to learn more abt it, it can also be a stumbling block for young christians in 1 way or another.
salvation and sharing the gospel is still the crux of it all.
If praying in tongues was such as stumbling block, then why did God ordain it? See my previous post. -
I agree with your post until the highlighted.Originally posted by breytonhartge:it is possible for us to speak in tongues and have an idea of what we are saying, I speak in tongues and I will be aware somtimes of what I am praying about in a general sense not specific, but like the bible says, each of us are unique in our gifting so it is possible to know exactly what we are praying in tongues if you ask God.
Not important anyway.
This is a mystery. I have friends who reject tongues even though they they recieved the gifts and spoke in tongues before. He was recommended to Bible Collage. Oh well. -
True very true, there are gifts that we should be desiring, but ultimately, it is up to the individual...Originally posted by M©+square:I agree with your post until the highlighted.
Not important anyway.
This is a mystery. I have friends who reject tongues even though they they recieved the gifts and spoke in tongues before. He was recommended to Bible Collage. Oh well. -
And God's will.Originally posted by breytonhartge:True very true, there are gifts that we should be desiring, but ultimately, it is up to the individual...
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Amen! You kicked that flu yet?Originally posted by M©+square:And God's will. -
I've seek and been prayed for the gift of tongues almost 15 months back and never ever speak of it until March this year. During the period of a prayer conference, I was staying over at the Chalet with my friends since it's at DTE. The night before the conference, we were praying in the room during the evening and suddenly, I was able to pray in tongues when everyone was praying heavily and could feel the presence in the room. During the whole conference, I could also pray in tongues and during times when I and my friends really have to pray for someone really in need. So I reckon that the gift of tongues isn't something that you'll get when and when you like, but according to God's timing.
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Gone just last week. And glad about itOriginally posted by breytonhartge:Amen! You kicked that flu yet?
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God bless you bro! Thanks for sharing.Originally posted by photo_seeker:I've seek and been prayed for the gift of tongues almost 15 months back and never ever speak of it until March this year. During the period of a prayer conference, I was staying over at the Chalet with my friends since it's at DTE. The night before the conference, we were praying in the room during the evening and suddenly, I was able to pray in tongues when everyone was praying heavily and could feel the presence in the room. During the whole conference, I could also pray in tongues and during times when I and my friends really have to pray for someone really in need. So I reckon that the gift of tongues isn't something that you'll get when and when you like, but according to God's timing. -
My take?
The short version - it's an over-rated gift. It's a spiritual gift nonetheless, but too many churches "market" it like it's the ONLY gift. Also the Biblical context (ie in Acts) of speaking it tongues seem to be missing in many churches. -
agreed.Originally posted by Chin Eng:My take?
The short version - it's an over-rated gift. It's a spiritual gift nonetheless, but too many churches "market" it like it's the ONLY gift. Also the Biblical context (ie in Acts) of speaking it tongues seem to be missing in many churches.