God's will
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How do we really know if it's God's will?
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First. Define God's Will.
God's will of what? your life?
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everything that is good - God's will
everything that is bad - satan's fault
simple and straightforward, dont you think? -
Originally posted by dragg:everything that is good - God's will
everything that is bad - satan's fault
simple and straightforward, dont you think?
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come on lets sing with me.
great and mighty is the lord our God
great and mighty is he....... -
no sincerity.Originally posted by dragg:come on lets sing with me.
great and mighty is the lord our God
great and mighty is he.......
should be "He" .. not "he" -
Let a man set his heart only on doing the will of God and he is instantly free. If we understand our first and sole duty to consist of loving God supremely and loving everyone, even our enemies, for God's dear sake, then we can enjoy spiritual tranquility under every circumstance. - A.W Tozer
This must be caught, not taught. -
Originally posted by M©+square:
Amen to that
Let a man set his heart only on doing the will of God and he is instantly free. If we understand our first and sole duty to consist of [b]loving God supremely and loving everyone, even our enemies, for God's dear sake, then we can enjoy spiritual tranquility under every circumstance. - A.W Tozer
This must be caught, not taught. [/b] -
errr....okOriginally posted by ultrium:Amen to that -
Everything good comes from God = YesOriginally posted by dragg:everything that is good - God's will
everything that is bad - satan's fault
simple and straightforward, dont you think?
Bad is the fault of the Devil = Yes
All authority belongs to God = Yes
Evil is only allowed to happened cause God allows it to happen = Yes
Thus, if you say everything that is bad is Satan's fault, that is without a doubt but is it not also also God's will then, when he allowed it to happen?
As in the case of Judas, it was Judas choice to betray Christ (freewill) but was is not God's will that it will happened this way? -
Hai.....the great debate. Again.Originally posted by ultrium:Everything good comes from God = Yes
Bad is the fault of the Devil = Yes
All authority belongs to God = Yes
Evil is only allowed to happened cause God allows it to happen = Yes
Thus, if you say everything that is bad is Satan's fault, that is without a doubt but is it not also also God's will then, when he allowed it to happen?
As in the case of Judas, it was Judas choice to betray Christ (freewill) but was is not God's will that it will happened this way? -
God's will in everything and anything we do.Originally posted by M©+square:First. Define God's Will.
God's will of what? your life?
Cheers -
What do you believe.Originally posted by ultrium:God's will in everything and anything we do.
I see that you've already got perception about the Will of God in your reply to dragg. -
Na, i will never know the Will of God, his will is greater then what we as humans can ever think or know of. A creation can never be compared to the Creator.Originally posted by M©+square:What do you believe.
I see that you've already got perception about the Will of God in your reply to dragg.
Peace be with you. -
Actually it's easy. Only depends which camp do you lean to.
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he is confused.Originally posted by M©+square:What do you believe.
I see that you've already got perception about the Will of God in your reply to dragg. -
God's will is whatever that happened, is happening and will happen.
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i have this opinion too. thats why i cannot agree with Him. i find the reasoning that God is the creator and we cant argue even more ridiculous.Originally posted by SocialOutcast:God's will is whatever that happened, is happening and will happen. -
your post already included the notion that God allow bad things to happen...simple as that......Originally posted by ultrium:Everything good comes from God = Yes
Bad is the fault of the Devil = Yes
All authority belongs to God = Yes
Evil is only allowed to happened cause God allows it to happen = Yes
Thus, if you say everything that is bad is Satan's fault, that is without a doubt but is it not also also God's will then, when he allowed it to happen?
As in the case of Judas, it was Judas choice to betray Christ (freewill) but was is not God's will that it will happened this way?
As to whether why He allows it to happen, for me I believe He wanted to taught me humility.
I was a hep c patient and suffered for one year for the treatment......was darn arrogant and believe I do not need Him....even joking to my fren that I was the devil bringing my gf out from church....many things happened....
whatever happens, just believe that He is in control.....read the book of JOB....job is a shining example.... -
there are people who undergo hell and eventually switched to another faith, all in the name of miracles.Originally posted by laoda99:your post already included the notion that God allow bad things to happen...simple as that......
As to whether why He allows it to happen, for me I believe He wanted to taught me humility.
I was a hep c patient and suffered for one year for the treatment......was darn arrogant and believe I do not need Him....even joking to my fren that I was the devil bringing my gf out from church....many things happened....
whatever happens, just believe that He is in control.....read the book of JOB....job is a shining example.... -
not "miracles" ...the key word is faith.... if u dun have faith, then u dun believe in anything.......give u a thousand miracles also useless.....Originally posted by dragg:there are people who undergo hell and eventually switched to another faith, all in the name of miracles.
men's skeptism/unbelief will lead to his downfall/hell....... -
hmm...no comments at press time.
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faith is 'believing in something you dont and cant see'Originally posted by laoda99:not "miracles" ...the key word is faith.... if u dun have faith, then u dun believe in anything.......
men's skeptism/unbelief will lead to his downfall/hell.......
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Job is a bad example.Originally posted by laoda99:your post already included the notion that God allow bad things to happen...simple as that......
As to whether why He allows it to happen, for me I believe He wanted to taught me humility.
I was a hep c patient and suffered for one year for the treatment......was darn arrogant and believe I do not need Him....even joking to my fren that I was the devil bringing my gf out from church....many things happened....
whatever happens, just believe that He is in control.....read the book of JOB....job is a shining example.... -
Ya that's kinda sad for some people. But if He really exists then whether you agree with Him or not does not matter at all.Originally posted by dragg:i have this opinion too. thats why i cannot agree with Him. i find the reasoning that God is the creator and we cant argue even more ridiculous.
Hey, just curious, were you once a Christian or something?