Wise Men from East: Chinese?
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christians, i am not sure
but superpower...hmmmm
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No. I think those wise men were from India. India at that time was a very holy city. I cant remember the description of the wise men though.
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I don't think China will be the largest Christian nation in future. I don't think this will ever happen.Originally posted by purplecrazed:Next world superpower replacing America: China
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I'm not sure America will stay still for China to catch up.When China reaches American 2005 level for the average citizen, the Yanks would have colonized the moon.Originally posted by purplecrazed:Next world superpower replacing America: China
Next largest Christian nation replacing America: China
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The Bible does not give details of the wise men. Their number, origin, and actual time of arrival are not given. The term "Magi" originates from Iran, suggesting that the wise men may have come from Persia or Media. Others believe the men came from Babylon or southern Arabia. The men were most likely scholars and not kings as has become a popular idea.Originally posted by shade343:No. I think those wise men were from India. India at that time was a very holy city. I cant remember the description of the wise men though.
What we know about their time of arrival is that it was sometime between when He was born and the time He was two years old (Mat 2:7, 16). -
You never know...Originally posted by whereismyrib:I don't think China will be the largest Christian nation in future. I don't think this will ever happen.
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From David Aikman, journalist with Time Magazine:Originally posted by purplecrazed:
Aikman: Yes. The Chinese Christians believe that they have a national destiny to take the Gospel back to Jerusalem, and they don't mean in order to evangelize the Israelis, they mean to evangelize all of the countries along the way. If you look at a map, most of the countries on the way to Jerusalem are Muslim, and so many Chinese Christians have already taken training and are taking training in the Arabic language -- have joined the diplomatic service, precisely in order to be part of this process.
Aikman: I would say it is one of the most remarkable features of the Chinese church that they have a conviction that Christianity is the answer to many, many of China's great questions and the source of healing of many of China's problems. And I have never found any Christian community, outside of China, so convinced that the adoption of the Christian faith will be a blessing to their country.
David Aikman wrote a book called "Jesus in Beijing: How Christianity is transforming China and Changing the Global Balance of Power"
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Hahaa... I don't mind if the wise men were truly from India... Coz if there were indeed wise men from India who came to pay homage to worship Jesus when he was a child, then it would contradict the claims of some New-Agers who said that Jesus went to India to study under some guru. It was the 'gurus' who actually bow and worship Jesus, not the other way round.Originally posted by shade343:No. I think those wise men were from India. India at that time was a very holy city. I cant remember the description of the wise men though. -
Speculations speculations speculations
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If this is so, I would be happy.Originally posted by purplecrazed:
But from what I understand in the bible, I do not think China will be the next Christian Superpower. Superpower-YES. Christian Superpower-hmm... I doubt. Besides, the government there will try to control ..... and things like that.
Don't ask me what I understand from the bible that gives me that impression because I am still trying to understand the bible....
As laurence82 had said, all are speculations. But as you had said, we never know. So let things happen by itself. Afterall, all the prophecies in the bible can only be make CLEAR when the prophecy occurs by itself. If I'm not wrong, left 10% of the prophecy in the bible has not been fullfilled yet. -
Yes, the Christians in China have more conviction than Christians in Singapore. I heard stories in my church from missionaries.Originally posted by purplecrazed:From David Aikman, journalist with Time Magazine:
Aikman: Yes. The Chinese Christians believe that they have a national destiny to take the Gospel back to Jerusalem, and they don't mean in order to evangelize the Israelis, they mean to evangelize all of the countries along the way. If you look at a map, most of the countries on the way to Jerusalem are Muslim, and so many Chinese Christians have already taken training and are taking training in the Arabic language -- have joined the diplomatic service, precisely in order to be part of this process.
Aikman: I would say it is one of the most remarkable features of the Chinese church that they have a conviction that Christianity is the answer to many, many of China's great questions and the source of healing of many of China's problems. And I have never found any Christian community, outside of China, so convinced that the adoption of the Christian faith will be a blessing to their country.
David Aikman wrote a book called "Jesus in Beijing: How Christianity is transforming China and Changing the Global Balance of Power"
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I think the people in China are finding back the original unknown God of China like people in Athens. (c.f Acts 17:22-34)Originally posted by purplecrazed:From David Aikman, journalist with Time Magazine:
Aikman: Yes. The Chinese Christians believe that they have a national destiny to take the Gospel back to Jerusalem, and they don't mean in order to evangelize the Israelis, they mean to evangelize all of the countries along the way. If you look at a map, most of the countries on the way to Jerusalem are Muslim, and so many Chinese Christians have already taken training and are taking training in the Arabic language -- have joined the diplomatic service, precisely in order to be part of this process.
Aikman: I would say it is one of the most remarkable features of the Chinese church that they have a conviction that Christianity is the answer to many, many of China's great questions and the source of healing of many of China's problems. And I have never found any Christian community, outside of China, so convinced that the adoption of the Christian faith will be a blessing to their country.
David Aikman wrote a book called "Jesus in Beijing: How Christianity is transforming China and Changing the Global Balance of Power"
http://www.davidaikman.com/ -
See. I told you.Originally posted by laurence82:Speculations speculations speculations 
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yeapsOriginally posted by M©+square:See. I told you. 
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Ancient Romman history has it tt in those times, the whole Roman Empire is divided into east and west. the east is the current Europe.Originally posted by Dr Who:Because they came from the East
U study the Persian empire to the Great Empire(where Alexander the Great is from) to Roman empire, u can see clearly.
East is not referring to Asian continent, but the ancient East Roman Empire under the East Emperor.
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at the time of jesus, the roman empire where got divided into west and east yet?
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not yet.Originally posted by laurence82:at the time of jesus, the roman empire where got divided into west and east yet? -
thats whyOriginally posted by Icemoon:not yet.
so how come mach10 talks abt Eastern Roman Empire?
and no, Eastern Roman Empire did no evolve into the current europe
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mai play play .. lau good in history also.Originally posted by laurence82:thats why
so how come mach10 talks abt Eastern Roman Empire?
and no, Eastern Roman Empire did no evolve into the current europe
it was renamed the Byzantine Empire and sacked by the Ottoman Turks in 1453