New Creation Church - Church of Cheap Grace?
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This is for all Christians out there to reply. I would appreciate if u r from New Creation Church. Because I wanna ask one question which I dunno and indoubt myself.
MANY CHC members do not like New Creation Church due to the doctrines they preach. CHC claimed that New Creation preached too much grace to their members. Is that true?
Any comments dear brothers and sisters?
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attend the church and u see lor...see if its really cheap
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i attended before once. but then. i'm kinda puzzled why CHC members said it that way. So I need some comments..Originally posted by NT2:attend the church and u see lor...see if its really cheap -
then be prepared to recieive some flames on this thread...haha
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flame lor. but dun flame me. i've done nothing wrong. just asking for opinions. everyone's opinions are respected here.Originally posted by NT2:then be prepared to recieive some flames on this thread...haha -
MC's most avoided confrontation so far.
It has come.... -
Gee, i got one fren from CHC, one from NCC, and both never say anythingOriginally posted by M©+square:MC's most avoided confrontation so far.
It has come.... -
Whoa, one megachurch versus another...
I shall lie back and watch the show. -
there are different kinds of Christians mah.Originally posted by laurence82:Gee, i got one fren from CHC, one from NCC, and both never say anything
Likewise, there are different kind of preachers. -
and what are the three?Originally posted by M©+square:there are different kinds of Christians mah.
Likewise, there are different kind of preachers. -
NCC is the one in Suntec right?
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I will say this, each churches record speaks for itself, as to who is right and who is wrong, you have to decide. What people say ultimately is just that, a personal opinion on a matter. If you do not find anything wrong, then so be it.Originally posted by The Emperor:This is for all Christians out there to reply. I would appreciate if u r from New Creation Church. Because I wanna ask one question which I dunno and indoubt myself.
MANY CHC members do not like New Creation Church due to the doctrines they preach. CHC claimed that New Creation preached too much grace to their members. Is that true?
Any comments dear brothers and sisters?
But if you do read the bible, the central message that Christ was preaching is about God's love and His grace. There is no such thing as cheap grace, it was bought with a price, the sacrifice of God's only son. Jesus. This was done freely for you and everyone else who calls on the name of the Lord.
I have always maintained, Christianity is not about churches or people, it is about your own personal relationship with God. -
Misread ah. I typed There...not three...ahOriginally posted by laurence82:and what are the three?
You should rest. I'm going soon.
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yah, i misread...Originally posted by M©+square:Misread ah. I typed There...not three...ah
You should rest. I'm going soon.
Cheers 
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have a good rest MC and laurence...
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den wat? u wana preach sufferings???Originally posted by The Emperor:CHC claimed that New Creation preached too much grace to their members. Is that true?
Any comments dear brothers and sisters? -
Yeah!!Originally posted by breytonhartge:I have always maintained, Christianity is not about churches or people, it is about your own personal relationship with God.
And yah, S.A.Tan's whole idea of all these stabbings are to DIS-unify christians... Remember, the Devil comes to do only 3 things... Steal, Kill and Destroy. -
Thanks for your comment. i'll take heed ur advice.Originally posted by breytonhartge:I will say this, each churches record speaks for itself, as to who is right and who is wrong, you have to decide. What people say ultimately is just that, a personal opinion on a matter. If you do not find anything wrong, then so be it.
But if you do read the bible, the central message that Christ was preaching is about God's love and His grace. There is no such thing as cheap grace, it was bought with a price, the sacrifice of God's only son. Jesus. This was done freely for you and everyone else who calls on the name of the Lord.
I have always maintained, Christianity is not about churches or people, it is about your own personal relationship with God.
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No. i dun wanna preach sufferings.Originally posted by mach10:den wat? u wana preach sufferings???
Please, read my english properly, i just want opinions.
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If only churches were more united....haiz
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the sotong will prey 4 you
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they are jealous lah.Originally posted by The Emperor:i attended before once. but then. i'm kinda puzzled why CHC members said it that way. So I need some comments..
I pick NCC anytime. Doctrine, worship, preacher .. wins the Jurong one hands down.
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Pastor Prince once preached this during midweek service, which I attended.Originally posted by The Emperor:This is for all Christians out there to reply. I would appreciate if u r from New Creation Church. Because I wanna ask one question which I dunno and indoubt myself.
I paraphrase a bit. You think the grace is cheap? You say cheap 'cos you weren't the one shedding the blood and the tears.
It may be cheap to you .. but it doesn't come easily. -
u got a point there. and pls dun refer it to "me" cos i never said it. i was using wad some chc members said and post it here to get opinions. so it should be "they".Originally posted by Icemoon:Pastor Prince once preached this during midweek service, which I attended.
I paraphrase a bit. You think the grace is cheap? You say cheap 'cos you weren't the one shedding the blood and the tears.
It may be cheap to you .. but it doesn't come easily.
now, i think that wad they said could mean this since i was from that church for quite some time due to certain circumstances.
their point maybe this - yes, Jesus shed His blood for us with His life. And through that, and to all who believe, received grace. and therefore, are saved. in short, we are saved by grace through faith.
i dunno what about u guyz. still, i'm open for any comments. -
by the way, cheap grace can mean two things.
First is: We can sin whatever we like, however we like and God still forgives us when we confess and confess and confess like there's no repentence and still think that it's okay.
Second is: Too much focus on grace during preaching. For church system: An absence in the area of confronting members of their sin areas in their lives.
I think what makes CHC different from the rest of the other churches is that the leaders are not afraid to confront their members regarding their sin areas in their lives and strongly encourage them to be transformed.
Seriously i have nothing against anyone or anything here... i'm just wandering what all this fuss is about and it's causing pple in CHC to have a negative impression of anyone leaving the church.
I left because I want to seek a place which God will allow me to flow well with the church and her visions. I don't want to be caught in middle of nowhere and doing something that I'll resent later on.