Is God Revalation to man complete?
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Is the Bible complete? Are there things that God hasn't told us through the Bible?
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the Bible itself is not complete.
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yes its complete.
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those things weren't meant for you to know?Originally posted by fallin:Is the Bible complete? Are there things that God hasn't told us through the Bible? -
The Quran is.Originally posted by dragg:the Bible itself is not complete. -
Then what about extra-bible revelations?Originally posted by NT2:yes its complete. -
God didn't tell us when is the end of time.
But then, God doesn't want us to know. He wants us to be ready for that at all time. -
Yes its complete
He said to them: "It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority. But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth." Acts 1:7-8
Do you actually know what will happen to you tmr?
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extra...provided it does not contradict with any part of the Scripture. God is not schizophrenic and so He wont say things that cancel out or against the whole Scripture which WE christians acknowledge as His written word.Originally posted by fallin:Then what about extra-bible revelations? -
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It is complete. Line 73 of the Cathecism of the Catholic Church states:
God has revealed himself fully by sending his own Son, in whom he has established his covenant for ever. The Son is his Father's definitive Word; so there will be no further Revelation after him. -
This is in line with the protestant doctrine.Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:It is complete. Line 73 of the Cathecism of the Catholic Church states:
God has revealed himself fully by sending his own Son, in whom he has established his covenant for ever. The Son is his Father's definitive Word; so there will be no further Revelation after him. -
recieved from us wad....Originally posted by Icemoon:This is in line with the protestant doctrine. -
Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:recieved from us wad....
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Yah...Originally posted by Icemoon: -
The bible which you find in bookshops and most churches now are not complete. The Original teachings had been changed and some parts are omitted. You need to check with other sources to learn the full truth and constraint your knowledge to that of the bible which you have now.
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Can you tell us what are the missing books?Originally posted by shade343:The bible which you find in bookshops and most churches now are not complete. The Original teachings had been changed and some parts are omitted. You need to check with other sources to learn the full truth and constraint your knowledge to that of the bible which you have now. -
Its not missing books but missing Information.Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:Can you tell us what are the missing books? -
Ya ya .. some pieces of information are contained in the works of Sai Baba right?Originally posted by shade343:Its not missing books but missing Information. -
And moreover, one should also be on the lookout for new and updated information which may come in anytime rather than just be satisfied with teh current information they have about God and his creations.
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thats some. There are more than that also. Sai Baba's information are but a piece of a puzzle. Its probably only 1% of the entire truth. There is still more to learn and more to find out.Originally posted by Icemoon:Ya ya .. some pieces of information are contained in the works of Sai Baba right? -
Yes, the bible is complete in the present canonised form. But it depends on whether catholic or protestant bibles i think bcos i heard that catholic bibles have the apocryphal books.Originally posted by fallin:Is the Bible complete? Are there things that God hasn't told us through the Bible?
But if u say things that God hasnt told us thru the bible, i think we cant or wont be able to understand unless as i said in another thread u have superbrain or superwisdom according to another person who replied. -
I am confused:
The topic is Is God's Revelation to Man complete (spelling/grammatical error corrected), the first post is "Is the Bible complete? Are there things that God hasn't told us through the Bible?"
Whether the Bible is complete or not, and whether God has finished revealing information to us are TWO completely different issues.
So what are we talking about.
If its regarding the Bible, then YES: the Bible is complete insomuch as what God wanted to convey which is the salvation work of Christ. If its regarding revelation per se, then I believe the answer is NO: God can reveal any information he wants to anybody he wants anytime he wants. -
huh..really?Originally posted by John The Baptist:Yes, the bible is complete in the present canonised form. But it depends on whether catholic or protestant bibles i think bcos i heard that catholic bibles have the apocryphal books.
But if u say things that God hasnt told us thru the bible, i think we cant or wont be able to understand unless as i said in another thread u have superbrain or superwisdom according to another person who replied. -
Yes and No.Originally posted by fallin:Is the Bible complete? Are there things that God hasn't told us through the Bible?
"is the Bible complete?"
complete in what sense?
if you say in everything and anything.......then No. The Bible is not a book about everything and anything. It is primarily a book about salvation that comes from the Lord Jesus Christ. It doesn't explain to us how the pyramids of Egypt came to be, who my future ex-wife will be
, the cure for Aids and etc.
If you say about everything we need to know about salvation and every doctrine, precepts, principles that pertain to Christian living and sanctification .............then Yes it is complete.
Jude 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort [you] that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
When Jude says 'contend for the FAITH........' he was not speaking about our subjective faith in Christ for salvation but rather he was talking about objective faith, THE BODY OF TRUTH about Christianiaty.
Why are we certain of this interpretation? Look at the definite article 'THE' before the word 'FAITH'. "The presence of the article identifies and the absence of it qualifies" says the Greek grammar.
Jude here is pointing to the the truths of the Christian FAITH not our saving faith in Christ.
Then Jude proceeds to describe this FAITH [body of Christian truth or revelation]...he says that this faith is 'ONCE DELIVERED' unto the saints'
The word 'once' is actually the word hapax in Greek. Koine Greek speakers when using this word usually means finality. So the meaning could be "once and for all delivired to the saints."
What does Jude say about the Faith? it is once and for all delivered to the saints.
Plus, the tense of the verb 'delivered' here is very significant. The tense of the verb used by Jude here is the aorist tense. Aorist tense in Greek speaks of an event happening as a single whole.
So Jude is saying here that the Fatih is once and for all delivered [as a single whole] to the saints.
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