Pastor and priest
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I have noticed in protestant churches(No offence), there are over-zealous people claiming to be pastors.How to identify the real and the false.
What is the difference between a pastor and a priest and how come protestant denominations allow female servers -
pastors are leaders in the church, leading the church in God's direction for them, and preaching and ministering
priest are catholics ba, right bear?
reverands are pastors, who are recognised by the world, like city harvest's reverand kong? all the world's pastors recognise and acknowledge him.
my church's pastor is just a pastor.
and why females cannot serve as pastors? -
Personally, i disagree with female pastors.Originally posted by dumbdumb!:pastors are leaders in the church, leading the church in God's direction for them, and preaching and ministering
priest are catholics ba, right bear?
reverands are pastors, who are recognised by the world, like city harvest's reverand kong? all the world's pastors recognise and acknowledge him.
my church's pastor is just a pastor.
and why females cannot serve as pastors? -
because?
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biblical doctrines.Originally posted by dumbdumb!:because? -
celibacy....
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Originally posted by fandango:biblical doctrines.
Haha!!!
Notorious topic, but i doubt the Catholics will be interested in this debate cos their doctrine agrees with ya.
Let's have a topic on this someday.
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haha i asked my church this. but i think having women pastors to lead the women is a good idea.
i mean, last time the custom was that way.. but now times abit diff.
now women have alot of problems.. and a male minister may not be able to properly understand or minister. so having female ministers are good here.
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Depends depends...Originally posted by dumbdumb!:haha i asked my church this. but i think having women pastors to lead the women is a good idea.
i mean, last time the custom was that way.. but now times abit diff.
now women have alot of problems.. and a male minister may not be able to properly understand or minister. so having female ministers are good here.
Must seek God in this issue.
I guess it's all up to the church culture and head's decision.
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i tot vatican was considering to allow women into priesthood?
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the church must still be led by a male. after all, the female is meant to be the male's helper =D
so my church is lead by my pastor, and his wife helps in the administration, and takes care of the females in the church. doesn't mean my pastor's wife does her own things etc. she still follows the direction of the church
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For ur info, there are many churches with female pastors. Many of them leading female grps, worship, children network n many more.
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In a way, "pastor" is a professional title. Each holder need to go through a recognised seminary or theological school. In most churches, only upon attain a certain level of seniority (and probably some more studies) will the title of Reverend be confered on this individual. In other words, cannot any old call yourself pastor.Originally posted by chronicles:I have noticed in protestant churches(No offence), there are over-zealous people claiming to be pastors.How to identify the real and the false.
Not all churches allow woman pastors. As fandango had stated, there are some who will adhere to the biblical teachings. Others will interpret it as a shift in cultural traditions whereby women are more and more given positions of authority. It is also right that women pastors can cater to certain aspects of church life where it might be inconvenient for a male to do. All said and done, I don't think we'd see a woman achieving the rank of bishop anywhere in the near future.
What is the difference between a pastor and a priest and how come protestant denominations allow female servers -
Lead as in what way? A leader is a fuzzy term.Originally posted by dumbdumb!:haha i asked my church this. but i think having women pastors to lead the women is a good idea.
We have female preachers (chuan2 tao4) and I suppose deaconess too? Chuan2 tao4 can stand on pulpit and preach. Even the pastor also sit with the audience and listen on sunday.
Biblically it can be argued Priscilla in the NT was a leader 'cos she nurtured the _ (who ah? apollo?). -
Not sure about reverend .. but most reverends I see are pastors.Originally posted by Chin Eng:In a way, "pastor" is a professional title. Each holder need to go through a recognised seminary or theological school. In most churches, only upon attain a certain level of seniority (and probably some more studies) will the title of Reverend be confered on this individual. In other words, cannot any old call yourself pastor
In short .. pastors need to be ordained by God and by human. wahahah .. -
I think, by default, all reverends are pastors not vice versa.... at least in the Methodist context.Originally posted by Icemoon:Not sure about reverend .. but most reverends I see are pastors.
In short .. pastors need to be ordained by God and by human. wahahah .. -
Like they said.. Pastor leads the church.. brings them to the direction.
Priest does that too in a way.. but has the power to excorcise... n do other mumbo jumbo stuff.. -
In the Catholic context, there is a distinction between lay ministers and ordained ministers. Anybody can join the lay ministry. However, only a few will end up recieving the Sacrament of Holy Orders (ordination).
Only men may become priests. Only priests may celebrate Mass and hear confessions. -
I heard that in some of parts of USA, Catholic Priests are known as Pastors.
Then I watched one movie called the Sign by Mel Gibson. In the show, he was supposed to be some retired Church Minister. People call him Father. But he is married (which means he is likely a Protestant Minister).
I know in the Presbyterian Church, the Pastors are below the Reverend and they need to serve the church for a number of years to get promoted to Reverend.
Pastor in Chinese is called Chuan Dao.
Reverend is Mu Shi. -
That's not true. There are female chuan dao also .. but we don't call them pastors.Originally posted by Honeybunz:Pastor in Chinese is called Chuan Dao.
Reverend is Mu Shi.
As in those female speakers from outside the church come .. they are called chuan dao. but i seriously don't think they are pastors. -
hmm .. so in presbyterian church the pecking order is reverend - pastor - presbyer/elders?Originally posted by Honeybunz:I know in the Presbyterian Church, the Pastors are below the Reverend and they need to serve the church for a number of years to get promoted to Reverend.
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What is the purpose of having a elders in church? what do they do? Wondering.Originally posted by Icemoon:hmm .. so in presbyterian church the pecking order is reverend - pastor - presbyer/elders? -
priests r used in the context of RC n Anglican churches. These are ordained clergymen and are always males except for some deviant anglican dioceses that ordain female clergy.
Pastors in the strictest sense r pastoral workers who can be both male and female and are not ordained. They r simply trained in seminaries and equipped with some ministry skills.
Nowadays even those ordained call themselves Pastors..so there you go the double meaning of pastors. -
You're talking about the Presbyterians?Originally posted by Icemoon:That's not true. There are female chuan dao also .. but we don't call them pastors.
As in those female speakers from outside the church come .. they are called chuan dao. but i seriously don't think they are pastors.
Cuz I know a female pastor also called Chuan Dao. I knew her when she just grad from some bible college.