Where does Christians go after death?
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I read from many obituries that Christian 'was called home with the lord' so all the Christians would go heaven to be with the lord after death? So how does the Christans' heaven like?
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I also confused.
If they go heaven straight (we ignore the Catholic purgatory for the time being), then Judgement Day is for what?
No need to judge them liao mah. -
you are a christian right?Originally posted by Icemoon:I also confused.
If they go heaven straight (we ignore the Catholic purgatory for the time being), then Judgement Day is for what?
No need to judge them liao mah.
all people who died before the end of time goes to 7th heaven to wait for judgement day. -
I am not.Originally posted by dragg:you are a christian right?
all people who died before the end of time goes to 7th heaven to wait for judgement day.
Erm .. I first time heard of 7th heaven. Where you read it from? -
sorry, i cannot remember.Originally posted by Icemoon:I am not.
Erm .. I first time heard of 7th heaven. Where you read it from? -
i think the concept of the 7th heaven is muslim lah... the Jews only believe in 3 heavens... namely the first heaven is the skies, 2nd being outer space, 3rd being where God resides.
but anyways, some say Christians will not go heaven or hell but stay somewhere until Judgement day comes, and some others say Christians will go heaven n stay there till Judgment day.
but either way, not much point in arguing about it now since no one can prove or disprove anything... either way, Christians who lived their live true to God's Word go to heaven la. be it pre-J day or post-J day... but not all Christians will go heaven la... those who live like a non-believer ie live in sin perpertually and knowingly without change is hell-bound... -
judaism, muslim, christianity and catholicsm are all related.Originally posted by ccck:i think the concept of the 7th heaven is muslim lah... the Jews only believe in 3 heavens... namely the first heaven is the skies, 2nd being outer space, 3rd being where God resides.
but anyways, some say Christians will not go heaven or hell but stay somewhere until Judgement day comes, and some others say Christians will go heaven n stay there till Judgment day.
but either way, not much point in arguing about it now since no one can prove or disprove anything... either way, Christians who lived their live true to God's Word go to heaven la. be it pre-J day or post-J day... but not all Christians will go heaven la... those who live like a non-believer ie live in sin perpertually and knowingly without change is hell-bound... -
Grammar mistake
Where do Christians go after death?
or you can put it as
Where does a Christian go after death? -
lolOriginally posted by laurence82:Grammar mistake
Where do Christians go after death?
or you can put it as
Where does a Christian go after death?
thanks for trying to inc. ratings. -
Originally posted by dragg:judaism, muslim, christianity and catholicsm are all related.
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There are two types of Judgement.
1) Particular Judgement
2) General Judgement
Particular Judgement occurs after one's earthly death. One either:
1) enters into the blessedness of heaven through a purification process called Purgatory, or
2) enters Heaven immediately, or
3) receives immediate and everlasting damnation in Hell.
General Judgement however, takes place at the end of the world. The bodies of all men will be reunited with their souls and every man will come before God for a second and final judgement. In the Particular Judgement only the soul appears before God. In the General Judgement the body, as well as the soul, of each individual will receive the reward or punishment that it justly deserves. At that time all the words and works of men, even their most secret thoughts, will be made manifest to the world -
dragg: You still know your stuff well.Originally posted by dragg:you are a christian right?
all people who died before the end of time goes to 7th heaven to wait for judgement day.
Yes there are varied theories on the number of layers of heaven.
Anyone care to be reminded of Hades?
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got 18 levels of hellOriginally posted by M©+square:dragg: You still know your stuff well.
Yes there are varied theories on the number of layers of heaven.
Anyone care to be reminded of Hades?
Cheers
I am so evil, they are digging another layer just to accomodate me...
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18 layers of hell i not sure le.Originally posted by laurence82:got 18 levels of hell
I am so evil, they are digging another layer just to accomodate me...
Maybe JTB can answer. -
ooo dante's infernal arh? i luve dat.
Circle 1. Limbo - the unbaptized and virtuous pagans, who, though not sinful, did not accept Christ. They are not punished in an active sense, but are merely unable to reach Heaven and denied God's presence for eternity (Canto 4).
Circle 2. Those overcome by lust, trapped in a violent storm, never to touch each other again, featuring Francesca da Rimini and her lover Paolo (Canto 5).
Circle 3. Gluttons, face-down in the mud and gnawed apart by Cerberus (Canto 6).
Circle 4. The greedy, who hoarded possessions, and the indulgent, who squandered them, forced to push giant rocks in opposite directions(Canto 7).
Circle 5. The wrathful, fighting each other in the swamp-like water of the river Styx, and the slothful, trapped beneath the water (Canto
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Circle 6. Heretics, trapped in flaming tombs (Cantos 10 and 11).
Circle 7. The violent (Cantos 12 through 17). These are divided into three rings:
o Outer ring: The violent against people and property, in a river of boiling blood (Canto 12).
o Middle ring: The violent against themselves—suicides —turned into thorny black trees [Uniquely among the dead, they will not be bodily reincarnated after the final judgment. Where others will continue to occupy Hell (and Heaven) in corporeal (rather than merely spiritual) form, suicides—because they alienated themselves from their own bodies—spend eternity in the body of a tree, their own corpses hanging from the limbs.] Also punished in this circle are profligates, chased perpetually through the trees by ferocious dogs (Canto 13). They are held here with the suicides because, during Dante's time, one's property is seen as an extension of one's physical body. Hence, doing violence to one's property is kin to suicide.
o Inner ring: The violent against God, art, and nature—blasphemers, sodomites, and usurers—in a desert of flaming sand where fire rains from the sky (Cantos 14 through 17).
Circle 8 The fraudulent—those guilty of deliberate, knowing evil—are located in a circle named Malebolge (Cantos 18 through 30). This is divided into ten ditches:
* Ditch 1: Panderers and seducers, running forever in opposite directions, whipped by demons (Canto 1.
* Ditch 2: Flatterers, steeped in human excrement (Canto 1.
* Ditch 3: Those who committed simony, placed head-first in holes, flames burning on the soles of their feet (Canto 19).
* Ditch 4: Sorcerers and false prophets, their heads put on backward on their bodies, so they can only see what is behind them (Canto 20).
* Ditch 5: Corrupt politicians (barrators), trapped in a lake of burning pitch (Cantos 21 and 22).
* Ditch 6: Hypocrites, made to wear brightly painted lead cloaks (Canto 23).
* Ditch 7: Thieves, chased by venomous snakes, and after being bitten by the venomous snakes, turn into snakes themselves and chase the other thieves in return (Cantos 24 and 25).
* Ditch 8: Fraudulent advisors, trapped in flames (Cantos 26 and 27).
* Ditch 9: Sowers of discord, whose bodies are ripped apart, then heal, only to be attacked again (Cantos 28 and 29).
* Ditch 10: Falsifiers, i.e. alchemists, counterfeiters, perjurers, and impersonators. Each group is punished by being afflicted with a different type of disease (Cantos 29 and 30).
Circle 9. Traitors, distinguished from the "merely" fraudulent, in that their acts involve knowingly and deliberately betraying others, are frozen in a lake of ice (Cantos 32 through 34). Each group of traitors is encased in ice to a different height, ranging from only the waist down to complete immersion. This is divided into four concentric zones:
* Outer zone 1 (Caïna): Traitors to their kindred (Canto 32). Named for Cain.
* Zone 2 (Antenora): Traitors to political entities, such as party, city, or country (Cantos 32 and 33), such as Count Ugolino. Named for Antenor of Troy, who, according to medieval tradition, betrayed his city to the Greeks.
* Zone 3 (Ptolomæa): Traitors to their guests (Canto 33). Named (probably) for Ptolemy, captain of Jericho, who invited Simon the High Priest and his sons to a banquet and there killed them. One of its inhabitants, Friar Alberigo, explains that sometimes a soul falls here before the time that Atropos (the Fate who cuts the thread of life) should send it. Their bodies on Earth are immediately possessed by a fiend.
* Central zone 4 (Judecca): Traitors to their lords and benefactors (Canto 34). This is the harshest section of Hell, containing Satan, who is eternally consuming the bodies of Brutus and Cassius for assassinating Julius Caesar, and the head of Judas Iscariot for betraying Jesus, after whom this zone is named.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Divine_Comedy <-- da wiki
http://www.4degreez.com/misc/dante-inferno-information.html <-- da quiz, it sent me straight to satan's lair.. knn. juz for fun hor, dun believe. -
ito:
What are you talking about?
My ignorance...but how is this post relative to the topic?
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levels of hell ma.. but its more of entertainment value la.Originally posted by M©+square:ito:
What are you talking about?
My ignorance...but how is this post relative to the topic?
Cheers
answer for JTB ba, in a way. lol. -
Hmm....now you make me suspect you're JTB's buddyOriginally posted by Ito_^:levels of hell ma.. but its more of entertainment value la. answer for JTB ba, in a way. lol.
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wait wait, JTB never posted in this topics leh...
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dats kinda scary..Originally posted by M©+square:Hmm....now you make me suspect you're JTB's buddy
Cheers
anyways, back to topic.. this is kinda irrelavent oso, probably cannot be believed. the levels of hell is a mirror of the levels of heaven, so if the levels of hell are 9, den there shld be 9 levels of heaven as well. -
I vaguely rem that when i mentioned levels of hell b4, someone told me no such thing as level, only one hell one heaven...Originally posted by Ito_^:dats kinda scary..
anyways, back to topic.. this is kinda irrelavent oso, probably cannot be believed. the levels of hell is a mirror of the levels of heaven, so if the levels of hell are 9, den there shld be 9 levels of heaven as well.
So there are actual levels? -
scary? You scared of JTB?Originally posted by Ito_^:dats kinda scary..
anyways, back to topic.. this is kinda irrelavent oso, probably cannot be believed. the levels of hell is a mirror of the levels of heaven, so if the levels of hell are 9, den there shld be 9 levels of heaven as well.
About hell, not sure...nothing much has been written about hell.
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Elvis Presley - In My Father's House
In my father's house are many mansions
If it were not true he would have told me so
He has gone away to live in that bright city
He's preparing me a mansion there I know
Jesus died upon the cross to bear my sorrow
Freely died that souls like you might have new life
But I know that soon there'll come a bright tomorrow
When the world will all be free from sin and strife
(Do not shun the saviors love, from up in glory)
(Or you won't be there to sing the gospel story)
In my father's house are many mansions
If you're true then to this land you'll surely go
Cheers -
i google abit, alot of christian sites says there r 3 for heaven.Originally posted by laurence82:I vaguely rem that when i mentioned levels of hell b4, someone told me no such thing as level, only one hell one heaven...
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oh ok..Originally posted by Ito_^:i google abit, alot of christian sites says there r 3 for heaven.