Going with the crowd
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Are dreams and visions increasing? Will dreams and visions increase during the end times?
Acts 2:17 tell us:
"In the Last Days," God says,
"I will pour out my Spirit
on every kind of people:
Your sons will prophesy,
also your daughters;
Your young men will see visions,
your old men dream dreams.
I see more traditional churches preaching more about the end times (e.g. using revelations) as compared to the past....
Please don't flame me lar... just need some comments and opinions on these. Keep the discussion cool and peaceful, okay?
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You seem to like to end your questions this way.....
Please don't flame me lar... just need some comments and opinions on these. Keep the discussion cool and peaceful, okay?
The first qualifier is: is these the last days??? I don't know, but seems that every generation from the one in Acts think that they are. I have heard about the last days since I was a teenager. I have heard various theories of rapture and tribulations, read various interpretations of Revelations.... at the end of the day, I don't know and I think the writers also don't know.
Are dreams and visions increasing? Will dreams and visions increase during the end times?
Acts 2:17 tell us:
"In the Last Days," God says,
"I will pour out my Spirit
on every kind of people:
Your sons will prophesy,
also your daughters;
Your young men will see visions,
your old men dream dreams.
I see more traditional churches preaching more about the end times (e.g. using revelations) as compared to the past....
Prophecies, visions and dreams may seem to have increased, if so, why is it that many of such "supernatural" events do not seem to jive with each other?
Traditional churches preaching more about end times? Where did you get this data? How did you compare to the past.... I'd just said it, I have heard more when I was younger than now. Very likely such messages are targetted to the younger generation, therefore people of this age group hears more about it. -
Due to past experience, I think I have to end this way. You trying to be funny, is it?Originally posted by Chin Eng:The first qualifier is: is these the last days??? I don't know, but seems that every generation from the one in Acts think that they are. I have heard about the last days since I was a teenager. I have heard various theories of rapture and tribulations, read various interpretations of Revelations.... at the end of the day, I don't know and I think the writers also don't know.
Prophecies, visions and dreams may seem to have increased, if so, why is it that many of such "supernatural" events do not seem to jive with each other?
Traditional churches preaching more about end times? Where did you get this data? How did you compare to the past.... I'd just said it, I have heard more when I was younger than now. Very likely such messages are targetted to the younger generation, therefore people of this age group hears more about it.
The word "last day" appears quite often in the bible. How to you define "last days" in the bible? Some verse put it this way: "this is the last hour".... or something like that.... How do you define them???
In my experience, they seem to. (And I dun want to debate about it pls pls... maybe that is my experience... thanks for sharing your experience... )
N.B: I am not here to debate if now is the last day or not... I'm here to try to study the bible... and to know God's word better!
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when the bible have stated that No one will know the last days, the coming of last days. That means not even you know.Originally posted by happyharvest:Due to past experience, I think I have to end this way. You trying to be funny, is it?
The word "last day" appears quite often in the bible. How to you define "last days" in the bible? Some verse put it this way: "this is the last hour".... or something like that.... How do you define them???
In my experience, they seem to. (And I dun want to debate about it pls pls... maybe that is my experience... thanks for sharing your experience... )
N.B: I am not here to debate if now is the last day or not... I'm here to try to study the bible... and to know God's word better!
Thank You.
But if your experience serves you well, to believe that it is. Then, let it be.
I remember attending FOPs and the preacher will always say this is the last generation and have been on going for years.
By saying that all the time. Effectiveness of the coming of Last Days will dull the Christians. I believe.
HH: In your experience, what do you see and experience which made you believe that this is the last days?
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Errr... you got me wrong..Originally posted by M©+square:when the bible have stated that No one will know the last days, the coming of last days. That means not even you know.
But if your experience serves you well, to believe that it is. Then, let it be.
I remember attending FOPs and the preacher will always say this is the last generation and have been on going for years.
By saying that all the time. Effectiveness of the coming of Last Days will dull the Christians. I believe.
HH: In your experience, what do you see and experience which made you believe that this is the last days?
Cheers.
.. I din mean I feel now is the last day. I mean I feel my church now talk a bit more about the end times thingy compared to the past... Hope I clear it up........................(Maybe I wasn't clear in my message... paisey...) -
Another bible verse I want to ask you is this:Originally posted by Chin Eng:The first qualifier is: is these the last days??? I don't know, but seems that every generation from the one in Acts think that they are. I have heard about the last days since I was a teenager. I have heard various theories of rapture and tribulations, read various interpretations of Revelations.... at the end of the day, I don't know and I think the writers also don't know.
Prophecies, visions and dreams may seem to have increased, if so, why is it that many of such "supernatural" events do not seem to jive with each other?
Traditional churches preaching more about end times? Where did you get this data? How did you compare to the past.... I'd just said it, I have heard more when I was younger than now. Very likely such messages are targetted to the younger generation, therefore people of this age group hears more about it.
Why did paul write this:
29"Therefore since we are God's offspring, we should not think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone—an image made by man's design and skill. 30In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. 31For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to all men by raising him from the dead."
(Acts 17:29-31)
Does God make a mistake? Why God OVERLOOKED such ignorance? MC or other expert may want to comment... -
Huh????? If your parents said to you that they will overlook your offence (whatever it maybe) this time, does that mean that made a mistake? Or do they mean that they are choosing to ignore it, this time?Originally posted by happyharvest:Another bible verse I want to ask you is this:
Why did paul write this:
29"Therefore since we are God's offspring, we should not think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone—an image made by man's design and skill. 30In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. 31For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to all men by raising him from the dead."
(Acts 17:29-31)
Does God make a mistake? Why God OVERLOOKED such ignorance? MC or other expert may want to comment...
This verse means sometimes God give chance. Alternatively refer to the more learned explanation at: http://biblecommenter.com/acts/17-29.htm
You might want to book mark such sites as a first level of queries or purchase a good reference Bible. -
The Message - version of Acts 17:30Originally posted by happyharvest:Another bible verse I want to ask you is this:
Why did paul write this:
29"Therefore since we are God's offspring, we should not think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone—an image made by man's design and skill. 30In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. 31For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to all men by raising him from the dead."
(Acts 17:29-31)
Does God make a mistake? Why God OVERLOOKED such ignorance? MC or other expert may want to comment...
God overlooks it as long as you don't know any better--but that time is past. The unknown is now known, and he's calling for a radical life-change.
Wanted to post the simplified chinese version of Acts 17:30 but text not recognised. You may wish to use Biblegateway to check it up.
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Thank you very much de.Originally posted by Chin Eng:Huh????? If your parents said to you that they will overlook your offence (whatever it maybe) this time, does that mean that made a mistake? Or do they mean that they are choosing to ignore it, this time?
This verse means sometimes God give chance. Alternatively refer to the more learned explanation at: http://biblecommenter.com/acts/17-29.htm
You might want to book mark such sites as a first level of queries or purchase a good reference Bible.
Actually I know the answer. Just want to know more opinions. Not play prank lar, just to understand deeper. -
Hi klydeer,Originally posted by klydeer:The Message - version of Acts 17:30
God overlooks it as long as you don't know any better--but that time is past. The unknown is now known, and he's calling for a radical life-change.
Wanted to post the simplified chinese version of Acts 17:30 but text not recognised. You may wish to use Biblegateway to check it up.
Think the message is more of Grace than God making a mistake.
Ya, This forums cannot put chinese wordings. Perhaps the owner can consider upgrading this forums.
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hmmm...Originally posted by happyharvest:Thank you very much de.
Actually I know the answer. Just want to know more opinions. Not play prank lar, just to understand deeper.
I nearly type a thesis out.
Actually you know then you can share what you know and others fill it in.
Hai. Is this a ego trip or you like being a monitor going around check if people knows their stuff?
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hmm .. I sense some bad feelings between happyharvest and mc2/chin eng ..Originally posted by M©+square:Hai. Is this a ego trip or you like being a monitor going around check if people knows their stuff?
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Ok.Originally posted by Icemoon:hmm .. I sense some bad feelings between happyharvest and mc2/chin eng ..
don't be liddat leh.
I just come in and bull only. Don't take my words seriously.
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Originally posted by happyharvest:Another bible verse I want to ask you is this:
Does God make a mistake? Why God OVERLOOKED such ignorance? MC or other expert may want to comment...
What do i see?Originally posted by happyharvest:Thank you very much de.
Actually I know the answer. Just want to know more opinions. Not play prank lar, just to understand deeper.
Mockery? Challenge?
What i interprete - When one have already believe that you've know the answer. one wont have the desire to understand deeper. Because there is no need! -
I think what he meant was he knew one possible answer. Aiya dun read too much into the replies in this forum, many of them written in a hurry.Originally posted by M©+square:What do i see?
Mockery? Challenge?
What i interprete - When one have already believe that you've know the answer. one wont have the desire to understand deeper. Because there is no need! -
Ok lo. Me fault.Originally posted by Icemoon:I think what he meant was he knew one possible answer. Aiya dun read too much into the replies in this forum, many of them written in a hurry.
Apologise to HappyHarvest.
Don't mention MC ah...or me will get very worked up!
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Thank you Icemoon. We need you to cool things down.Originally posted by Icemoon:I think what he meant was he knew one possible answer. Aiya dun read too much into the replies in this forum, many of them written in a hurry. -
Peace.Originally posted by Icemoon:hmm .. I sense some bad feelings between happyharvest and mc2/chin eng ..
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We need you to stop working things up.Originally posted by happyharvest:Thank you Icemoon. We need you to cool things down. 
Think before you write before you have to say "Paisey if I have insulted you in any way, "
If you are not in a proper state of mind, don't write. don "maybe I wrote this in a spur of emotion... " There is no "Okay lar... peace peace" when you let yr emotion runs wild.
Address the mod properly, "Entertainers, please do your jobs" shows no respect.
We hear yr point, "We still need some entertainers lo... "consider EH as an entertaining forum ... To seek answer, never seek here...", "Entertainers, please do your jobs". But if you want entertainment, go look at the mirror "... I guess I wrote something foolish ... Haiz..."
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x2....Originally posted by sgdiehard:We need you to stop working things up.
Think before you write before you have to say "Paisey if I have insulted you in any way, "
If you are not in a proper state of mind, don't write. don "maybe I wrote this in a spur of emotion... " There is no "Okay lar... peace peace" when you let yr emotion runs wild.
Address the mod properly, "Entertainers, please do your jobs" shows no respect.
We hear yr point, "We still need some entertainers lo... "consider EH as an entertaining forum ... To seek answer, never seek here...", "Entertainers, please do your jobs". But if you want entertainment, go look at the mirror "... I guess I wrote something foolish ... Haiz..."
guess I am not the only one who has issues with HH's frivilous tone. I had just wrote this next point in another thread: I do not come to EH to be entertained. -
Originally posted by sgdiehard:We need you to stop working things up.
Think before you write before you have to say "Paisey if I have insulted you in any way, "
If you are not in a proper state of mind, don't write. don "maybe I wrote this in a spur of emotion... " There is no "Okay lar... peace peace" when you let yr emotion runs wild.
Address the mod properly, "Entertainers, please do your jobs" shows no respect.
We hear yr point, "We still need some entertainers lo... "consider EH as an entertaining forum ... To seek answer, never seek here...", "Entertainers, please do your jobs". But if you want entertainment, go look at the mirror "... I guess I wrote something foolish ... Haiz..."
If I have to catch every forumers' words, well ...
Anyway, I get what you mean...
And entertainers do not represent the mod please... anybody will do... Just a playful remarks... (You so lihai, can read my mind? But still wrong leh... )
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