What if one day, you found sufficient evidence that...
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...Jesus Christ did teach about reincarnation? Would you accept it?
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define sufficient evidence?
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Maybe Archeaologist discovered certain forgotten texts and scriptures tt records what jesus christ taught?
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My take is .. since Scripture does not provide any collaborating evidence .. those evidence will not be accepted as strong or sufficient evidence.Originally posted by shade343:Maybe Archeaologist discovered certain forgotten texts and scriptures tt records what jesus christ taught? -
Ok. So that means you would never accept that jesus Christ taught about reincarnation?Originally posted by Icemoon:My take is .. since Scripture does not provide any collaborating evidence .. those evidence will not be accepted as strong or sufficient evidence. -
if they are not damning, why will they be called evidence in the first place?Originally posted by Icemoon:My take is .. since Scripture does not provide any collaborating evidence .. those evidence will not be accepted as strong or sufficient evidence.
besides, from what u write, i almost tot u mean, even if they are true, it depends on who view them? -
I assume the reason for stating as such is that you have these evidences...Originally posted by shade343:Ok. So that means you would never accept that jesus Christ taught about reincarnation?
otherwise there is nothing to discuss.
Might as well state that JC supported gambling... -
They could be classified as evidence, just not strong and ultimately not sufficient. Just like there are strong or weak witnesses in court. Let's say the evidence was discovered to be written by a person originated from India, how strong is the evidence then?Originally posted by laurence82:if they are not damning, why will they be called evidence in the first place?
besides, from what u write, i almost tot u mean, even if they are true, it depends on who view them?
The Bible is the gold standard. Any evidence has to measure against it. -
and in the same "evidence", it is said that " if you accept Jesus Christ, you will be born in the new world (reincarnated?) as a boy born of a rich family, with everything you want...." will you accept Him?Originally posted by shade343:...Jesus Christ did teach about reincarnation? Would you accept it?
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hey hey hey, sorry to interrupt...but it sounds like yr faith is wavering? I don't know...but why are we talking abt reincarnation here when e christian theology doesn't teach that?
as for the found evidence, its credibility has be to first established. If it's indeed true, then I shall have nothing to say but relearn my theology.
but as for now, christians hav to learn to accept your faith as it is. Should we be enticed by ideas, beliefs from other religions, it could mean that our faith is just not strong and mature enough. -
or likely not to accept the evidence when its right in front of us?Originally posted by wa|th3r:hey hey hey, sorry to interrupt...but it sounds like yr faith is wavering? I don't know...but why are we talking abt reincarnation here when e christian theology doesn't teach that?
as for the found evidence, its credibility has be to first established. If it's indeed true, then I shall have nothing to say but relearn my theology.
but as for now, christians hav to learn to accept your faith as it is. Should we be enticed by ideas, beliefs from other religions, it could mean that our faith is just not strong and mature enough.
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What if its not? What if there are several damning points, for example, proven to be written soon after the death of christ in jerusalem? proven to be written by st peter, for example?Originally posted by Icemoon:They could be classified as evidence, just not strong and ultimately not sufficient. Just like there are strong or weak witnesses in court. Let's say the evidence was discovered to be written by a person originated from India, how strong is the evidence then?
The Bible is the gold standard. Any evidence has to measure against it.
If historians has any evidence damning enough, they arent going to stand around and 'measure againt bible' only... -
Reincarnation contradicts the act of salvation on the cross.
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Is Shady talking about the mysterious Dead Sea scrolls?
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Evidences got true and fake one lo. There are people in the past who wrote false testimony lo..... Can distinguish what is true and false if study well enough...
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the thing is this, if there were any evidence about what you say, would it not have been brought forward by now?Originally posted by laurence82:What if its not? What if there are several damning points, for example, proven to be written soon after the death of christ in jerusalem? proven to be written by st peter, for example?
If historians has any evidence damning enough, they arent going to stand around and 'measure againt bible' only... -
Let's flip this around.....
If there is immense amount of evidence that there is a God and Jesus did die for our sins.... would the mass of non-Christians believe.....?????
Fact remains that no matter what "evidence" is presented, there will be "counter-evidences".... -
The word "reincarnation" mean "Rebirth of the soul in another body" or simply "A reappearance or revitalization in another, a new embodiment." Nothing is said about the condition on how "reincarnation" could happen. I am answering shade343 along this and only this definition, may be a very thin line. If indeed Jesus Christ said anything about reincarnation, such reincarnation can only be possible because of the surrection of Jesus Christ, and man is born again, or reincarnated because of the salvation of Jesus Christ. Playing around with words? may be.Originally posted by sillyme:Reincarnation contradicts the act of salvation on the cross.
I do understand that "reincarnation" is normally and generally associated with the buddists doctrine of repetitive and automatic reimbodiement or even the karma and past life astrology. If we take that definition and the associated doctrine as a whole, it is certainly contradictory to the act of salvation, and we should never find any evidence of Jesus speaking about reincarnation, or anything that is contradictory to what He said and what He did.
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u forgot father timeOriginally posted by breytonhartge:the thing is this, if there were any evidence about what you say, would it not have been brought forward by now?
it will be good if everything is revealed NOW, and not LATER
make historians, archaelogists and everyone else redundant immediately... -
When someone say sun is black, u dunno belive but when 1/3 of the world says so do u belive ?
Do u believe wat others believe or do u believe wat u believe ? do u believe wat others want u to believe or do u believe wat u want to believe ? -
Well...I dunno about about that...but I hear it contains powerful information as well...Originally posted by iveco:Is Shady talking about the mysterious Dead Sea scrolls? -
reincarnation means try harder..maybe got hope still.
the plan of salvation provided by Jesus Christ on the cross contradicts reincarnation. -
its good to see people fighting over it...Originally posted by Chin Eng:Let's flip this around.....
If there is immense amount of evidence that there is a God and Jesus did die for our sins.... would the mass of non-Christians believe.....?????
Fact remains that no matter what "evidence" is presented, there will be "counter-evidences"....
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In what way does it contradicts?Originally posted by NT2:reincarnation means try harder..maybe got hope still.
the plan of salvation provided by Jesus Christ on the cross contradicts reincarnation. -
When Jesus died on the cross, we are given eternal live. With eternal lives, do we need reincanation ? Isn't that obvious?Originally posted by shade343:In what way does it contradicts?