Do you know Christians can go to hell?
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I believe you've not followed your own thread well.Originally posted by John The Baptist:If Christians don't talk God, then talk cock? Or talk bullsh1t or cow dung or bird sh1t? -
I dont think so. How not well?Originally posted by M©+square:I believe you've not followed your own thread well. -
I don't wish to dissect any of the post regarding the debate(Lau and you) unless it is necessary or i'd say it is possible to bring you to senses.Originally posted by John The Baptist:I dont think so. How not well?
Are you bitter about this forum? -
No comments.Originally posted by M©+square:I don't wish to dissect any of the post regarding the debate(Lau and you) unless it is necessary or i'd say it is possible to bring you to senses.
Are you bitter about this forum? -
I think he's bitter about everything that had happened to him. I am sure we all remember his opening posts, about the failure of the people around him, about how he was betrayed by his brethens etc etc. That basically explains his state of mind, the persecution complex, the delusional intepretation.Originally posted by M©+square:I don't wish to dissect any of the post regarding the debate(Lau and you) unless it is necessary or i'd say it is possible to bring you to senses.
Are you bitter about this forum?
Well, nothing has changed. His no comments commented volumes on his psyche. -
Can i say what u did to me commented a lot abt your psyche as well? Self confessed arrogant, impatient & stupidity hating man?Originally posted by Chin Eng:I think he's bitter about everything that had happened to him. I am sure we all remember his opening posts, about the failure of the people around him, about how he was betrayed by his brethens etc etc. That basically explains his state of mind, the persecution complex, the delusional intepretation.
Well, nothing has changed. His no comments commented volumes on his psyche. -
True, that's my psyche.... I am honest with my God, myself and my fellow forumites? I have never had any problems with admitting to my personal issues. I have never ever claimed to be anything more than what I have describe of myself. Let me add one more thing, like Paul, I admit to be great sinner.Originally posted by John The Baptist:Can i say what u did to me commented a lot abt your psyche as well? Self confessed arrogant, impatient & stupidity hating man?
How about you? Are you honest with God, yourself and your fellow forumites that you are deranged individual who is great need for some psychiatric and spiritual counselling. Don't you have a pastor to go to in this time of needs, or have they abandoned you too?
As I had always maintained, I deal with the facts - facts about myself and facts about you. -
Sorry when i see u act like gangster, i thot u were deranged yourself. I was already forthcoming didnt i say so in my earliest postings? Do you want me to repeat?Originally posted by Chin Eng:True, that's my psyche.... I am honest with my God, myself and my fellow forumites? I have never had any problems with admitting to my personal issues. I have never ever claimed to be anything more than what I have describe of myself. Let me add one more thing, like Paul, I admit to be great sinner.
How about you? Are you honest with God, yourself and your fellow forumites that you are deranged individual who is great need for some psychiatric and spiritual counselling. Don't you have a pastor to go to in this time of needs, or have they abandoned you too?
As I had always maintained, I deal with the facts - facts about myself and facts about you. -
You know of a shrink that can cure him?Originally posted by Chin Eng:I think he's bitter about everything that had happened to him. I am sure we all remember his opening posts, about the failure of the people around him, about how he was betrayed by his brethens etc etc. That basically explains his state of mind, the persecution complex, the delusional intepretation.
Well, nothing has changed. His no comments commented volumes on his psyche. -
why not pray for him.
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I repeat Christians cannot got to hell when they have already accepted Jesus as their Lord & Saviour & trusted in His salvation. Those witches sent by the covens have led me astray. U better tell them to watch out for cursing me so much. I will expose all of them if they still dont watch out. These are those who are the goats who torture Christians & are fake believers even speaking in tongues. Satanic tongues.
Neither death nor life nor principality nor powers nor angels etc can separate us from the love of God which is in Chris Jesus our Lord! I die, live, oppressed by demons etc will not get me to hell. I will cling on to the Blood of Jesus & these will be condemned to hell ppl with severe delusions. U better tell them to watch out. Now i know who are the witches & who try to disturb me & lead me astray. They had better repent or they will face the consequences. U want me to list their names one by one? -
What is going on? What are all this threads?Originally posted by John The Baptist:U want me to list their names one by one? -
Pls MC2 i apologise for causing you such great harm just be careful.Originally posted by M©+square:What is going on? What are all this threads? -
Hey JTB, though you were stopping for the night? Get some rest...Originally posted by John The Baptist:Pls MC2 i apologise for causing you such great harm just be careful. -
"Christians" go to hell.....think real Christians wontOriginally posted by John The Baptist:Anyway, topic really drifted too much. I still say Christians can go to hell. -
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Originally posted by laoda99:"Christians" go to hell.....think real Christians wont
Explain leh. -
Means people who profess to be Christians may not be true Christians.
Like, say I go to church every Sunday. This is not a definition of a Christian. A Christian is someone who has a personal relationship with God.
But in real life, we normally call anyone who step into a church every Sunday a Christian.
So...IMHO the question asked in this thread is correct. Just define the terms properly. -
A person accepts God as his personal saviour, but didn't not have a personal relationship with Him.Originally posted by SocialOutcast:Means people who profess to be Christians may not be true Christians.
Like, say I go to church every Sunday. This is not a definition of a Christian. A Christian is someone who has a personal relationship with God.
But in real life, we normally call anyone who step into a church every Sunday a Christian.
So...IMHO the question asked in this thread is correct. Just define the terms properly.
What is what. Go to Hell or not? -
Personally I don't think that is possible.Originally posted by M©+square:A person accepts God as his personal saviour, but didn't not have a personal relationship with Him.
What is what. Go to Hell or not?
Unless the person accepts it 'intellectually' but not as a 'moral conviction'. This, I will call him/her a professing Christian, not one regenerated by the Holy Spirit. -
You're avoiding the question, i understand it's your personal opinion too. So allow me to voice my points.Originally posted by SocialOutcast:Personally I don't think that is possible.
Unless the person accepts it 'intellectually' but not as a 'moral conviction'. This, I will call him/her a professing Christian, not one regenerated by the Holy Spirit.
We are in no way to decide if a professing Christian
1) is not regenerated by the Holy Spirit
2) just accepts salvation 'intellectually'
3) if moral conviction is absent
4) if he/she is not changed by the holy Spirit
5) does not experience transformation
If you've read my question and not left anything out.
I've stated, the Believer recieved Christ as his personal savior but yet not have a personal relationship with God.
My point being - There is no such thing as formula to prove a regenerated believer.
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Hmm. agree.
Since when did I say we can JUDGE in a foolproof manner? Did I...pls point out I will apologize. All I'm saying is that there are real and professing Christians. I never said with our human judgment we can tell which is which. Just like in a group of people you won't be able to tell Christians from non-Christians. Only God knows.
Hope I made it clear
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Cool lah!Originally posted by SocialOutcast:Hmm. agree.
Since when did I say we can JUDGE in a foolproof manner? Did I...pls point out I will apologize. All I'm saying is that there are real and professing Christians. I never said with our human judgment we can tell which is which. Just like in a group of people you won't be able to tell Christians from non-Christians.
Hope I made it clear
We have differing views. But all is well.
Cheers