Have your local pastor/priest conducted an exorcism before?
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A believer of what?Originally posted by M©+square:
More importantly - Are you a believer now?
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zzzzzOriginally posted by ben1xy:we're in need of priests
i'll visit u! i promise!! -
erm ... i'll bring food?Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:zzzzz -
Are you snk86?Originally posted by shade343:A believer of what? -
erm .. funny you ask this qn.Originally posted by M©+square:
More importantly - Are you a believer now?
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snk86 is a believer .. I tot you should know that? -
Then what is more funny is that, deliverance session should a common scene in Christian living.Originally posted by Icemoon:erm .. funny you ask this qn.
snk86 is a believer .. I tot you should know that?
Apparently, the manifestation doesn't take place frequently.
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Could you come out with why doesn't it take place in people who are in bondage of demons and sin?
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After reading thru all the posts im pretty amused about how little Singaporeans actually know about exorcism... no offense though teehee
Exorcism can be done by ANYONE, not just Priests who have "high spiritual power" as said in one of the previous posts.
Demons are evil spirits that have a legal right to manifest themselves, or "possess" a person, ONLY if the person has feelings of distraught, guilt, hate, unforgiven misdeeds etc. Thus I would refer these as "Spiritual Garbage"
Exorcism is technically a very simple concept.
Eradication of all weaknesses and past-misfeelings is done first... in other words "Spiritual garbage" that exists in a person that the demons are actually feeding on must be dealt with first. (Without the Spiritual garbage, the demons will not have a legal right to dwell on) This process of helping the demonised person renouce and forgive his past misdeeds is know as 'inner healing'.
Secondly after inner healing has been done, it would require a deliverance ministry(or any normal person who believes in god) to actually pray for the demonised person, and cast the demon- in the name of God/Jesus- out by using their intimacy with the Holy spirit/Jesus as their tool.
What I have said above is fairly brief... but those of you who are really interested can try reading books like "Defeating Dark Angels", and "Pigs In The Parlour". These are acclaimed handbooks for Christians who deal with demonic possessions and stuff.
P.S. I am not a Christian -
KSMism in the house...Originally posted by TaintedFaith:After reading thru all the posts im pretty amused about how little Singaporeans actually know about exorcism... no offense though teehee
Exorcism can be done by ANYONE, not just Priests who have "high spiritual power" as said in one of the previous posts.
Demons are evil spirits that have a legal right to manifest themselves, or "possess" a person, ONLY if the person has feelings of distraught, guilt, hate, unforgiven misdeeds etc. Thus I would refer these as "Spiritual Garbage"
Exorcism is technically a very simple concept.
Eradication of all weaknesses and past-misfeelings is done first... in other words "Spiritual garbage" that exists in a person that the demons are actually feeding on must be dealt with first. (Without the Spiritual garbage, the demons will not have a legal right to dwell on) This process of helping the demonised person renouce and forgive his past misdeeds is know as 'inner healing'.
Secondly after inner healing has been done, it would require a deliverance ministry(or any normal person who believes in god) to actually pray for the demonised person, and cast the demon- in the name of God/Jesus- out by using their intimacy with the Holy spirit/Jesus as their tool.
What I have said above is fairly brief... but those of you who are really interested can try reading books like "Defeating Dark Angels", and "Pigs In The Parlour". These are acclaimed handbooks for Christians who deal with demonic possessions and stuff.
P.S. I am not a Christian -
Lol? why
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pardon this old man.... what does KSMism means?
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Kong Si MeeOriginally posted by vince69:pardon this old man.... what does KSMism means? -
It is dangerous to attempt the exorcism ritual by yourself. If not all priests can do it, what makes us think that laymen like us can do it.
Solemn exorcism is limited to the priest who prays in the name of the church. There are three requirements in order for this rite to be performed; the person must be possessed, a priest must perform the exorcism, and finally an exorcism could only be performed with the permission of the bishop (see signs of possession).
With private exorcism a lay-person or religious can pray in his/her own name (not in the name of the church). What this means is the laity cannot use the Roman Ritual of Exorcism to pray in the name of the church. -
Yup, I agree that exorcism can be done by anyone who calls on the power of Love. However, certain unbalanced entities might be a bit to powerful for an individual to cast it out. In those cases, more help is usually requested.Originally posted by TaintedFaith:After reading thru all the posts im pretty amused about how little Singaporeans actually know about exorcism... no offense though teehee
Exorcism can be done by ANYONE, not just Priests who have "high spiritual power" as said in one of the previous posts.
Demons are evil spirits that have a legal right to manifest themselves, or "possess" a person, ONLY if the person has feelings of distraught, guilt, hate, unforgiven misdeeds etc. Thus I would refer these as "Spiritual Garbage"
Exorcism is technically a very simple concept.
Eradication of all weaknesses and past-misfeelings is done first... in other words "Spiritual garbage" that exists in a person that the demons are actually feeding on must be dealt with first. (Without the Spiritual garbage, the demons will not have a legal right to dwell on) This process of helping the demonised person renouce and forgive his past misdeeds is know as 'inner healing'.
Secondly after inner healing has been done, it would require a deliverance ministry(or any normal person who believes in god) to actually pray for the demonised person, and cast the demon- in the name of God/Jesus- out by using their intimacy with the Holy spirit/Jesus as their tool.
What I have said above is fairly brief... but those of you who are really interested can try reading books like "Defeating Dark Angels", and "Pigs In The Parlour". These are acclaimed handbooks for Christians who deal with demonic possessions and stuff.
P.S. I am not a Christian -
the authority comes from Lord Jesus Christ. wat bishop and wat church?Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:It is dangerous to attempt the exorcism ritual by yourself. If not all priests can do it, what makes us think that laymen like us can do it.
Solemn exorcism is limited to the priest who prays in the name of the church. There are three requirements in order for this rite to be performed; the person must be possessed, a priest must perform the exorcism, and finally an exorcism could only be performed with the permission of the bishop (see signs of possession).
With private exorcism a lay-person or religious can pray in his/her own name (not in the name of the church). What this means is the laity cannot use the Roman Ritual of Exorcism to pray in the name of the church. -
if the apostles drove out demons in His name, surely the bishops and the priests must do so if He granted Authority to them.Originally posted by NT2:the authority comes from Lord Jesus Christ. wat bishop and wat church? -
Yes, agree on the point that not all should attempt to do exorcism/deliverance by themself, unless covered/protected by the blood of Christ, its dangerous to do this (read Acts 19:13-16)Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:It is dangerous to attempt the exorcism ritual by yourself. If not all priests can do it, what makes us think that laymen like us can do it.
Solemn exorcism is limited to the priest who prays in the name of the church. There are three requirements in order for this rite to be performed; the person must be possessed, a priest must perform the exorcism, and finally an exorcism could only be performed with the permission of the bishop (see signs of possession).
With private exorcism a lay-person or religious can pray in his/her own name (not in the name of the church). What this means is the laity cannot use the Roman Ritual of Exorcism to pray in the name of the church.
On the part that says, its limited to the priest who prays in the name of the church, I disagree, it should be pray in the name of Jesus, not church, reason being, Only Jesus is given the name above ALL names.
Yes, its good to consult the leaders before performing any exorcism/deliverance.
the last part on 'Roman Ritual of Exorcism', cannot comment on it, cause I have no knowledge on this. -
laymen like us can pray the prayer of deliverance, but cannot conduct the exorcism ritual.Originally posted by vince69:Yes, agree on the point that not all should attempt to do exorcism/deliverance by themself, unless covered/protected by the blood of Christ, its dangerous to do this (read Acts 19:13-16)
On the part that says, its limited to the priest who prays in the name of the church, I disagree, it should be pray in the name of Jesus, not church, reason being, Only Jesus is given the name above ALL names.
Yes, its good to consult the leaders before performing any exorcism/deliverance.
the last part on 'Roman Ritual of Exorcism', cannot comment on it, cause I have no knowledge on this. -
Tsk tricky.Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:laymen like us can pray the prayer of deliverance, but cannot conduct the exorcism ritual.
To simply put it across, a ordained priest or pastor is to be at the scene.
Layman who have authority and faith will conduct exorcism/deliverance session in the presence of Pastor or Priest.
It's about the authority in Christ, the God a layman placed his faith in.
Not easy to answer.
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Catholic priests exercise the powers of Holy Orders, which laymen do not have. Faith is one thing, but spiritual power is another.Originally posted by M©+square:Tsk tricky.
To simply put it across, a ordained priest or pastor is to be at the scene.
Layman who have authority and faith will conduct exorcism/deliverance session in the presence of Pastor or Priest.
It's about the authority in Christ, the God a layman placed his faith in.
Not easy to answer.
Cheers -
THis is a total BS
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Originally posted by FBI:THis is a total BS
You mean you dont believe in exorcism? -
I understand the orders of Catholic protocols.Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:Catholic priests exercise the powers of Holy Orders, which laymen do not have. Faith is one thing, but spiritual power is another.
What i've posted is a protestant version.
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NopeOriginally posted by shade343: You mean you dont believe in exorcism?
He cant make up his mind whether he is anti Christian or anti CHC
Lets leave him to his dilemma
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He decided anti CHC only.Originally posted by laurence82:Nope
He cant make up his mind whether he is anti Christian or anti CHC
Lets leave him to his dilemma -
oh, all right..Originally posted by M©+square:I understand the orders of Catholic protocols.
What i've posted is a protestant version.
Cheers