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I concur....Originally posted by SocialOutcast:Shade: Did jesus christ advocated going around telling people that christianity is the one and only religion and the one and only way to reach god??
Erm...actually he did.
And Jesus christ paid for our sins. Doest this shows the exisistence of karma? If he hadnt die for us, perhaps we would be suffering even more badly.
I see no link to karma leh. Sin is not equivalent to suffering. And are you sure by Christ's death the world suffered less? ie People before ~30 AD suffer more than people after ~30AD? Don't think so. -
The price of sin is suffering. So when jesus died for us, he suffered in place for us.Originally posted by SocialOutcast:Shade: Did jesus christ advocated going around telling people that christianity is the one and only religion and the one and only way to reach god??
Erm...actually he did.
And Jesus christ paid for our sins. Doest this shows the exisistence of karma? If he hadnt die for us, perhaps we would be suffering even more badly.
I see no link to karma leh. Sin is not equivalent to suffering. And are you sure by Christ's death the world suffered less? ie People before ~30 AD suffer more than people after ~30AD? Don't think so.
And no. Jesus never went around telling people that christianity was h eone and only religion. He only told people to follow God's way. He never said his was the one and only way.
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Exactly....and you are saying man is qualified to be a spokesman for god after they go around condemning each other?Originally posted by laoda99:Note that all denominations which adhere to the bible believe that Christ is THE WAY.....not 'A WAY'...
Why does different factions of other religions condemn each other? Becoz we are man.....
Yes Christians are spokesman for God. And I will speak up to rebuke if necessary.
It is THE WAY as in God's Way. Not as in "The one and only way". Only egoistic people view things from that perspective. Egoistic people always adhere to the believe that theirs is the best. -
The price of sin is deathOriginally posted by shade343:The price of sin is suffering. So when jesus died for us, he suffered in place for us.
And no. Jesus never went around telling people that christianity was h eone and only religion. He only told people to follow God's way. He never said his was the one and only way.
Your intepretation of the bible, as usual, smacks of arrogance.
He DID said his was the one and only way.
Your intepretation of the bible is typical of cults which view Christ as one of the gods or a demigod. A Christian will only worship Christ and no other gods. -
OF COS NOOriginally posted by crazy monkey:is gay or lesbian ? -
Icemoon seems to kep mentioning me in tis thread... I think i will just give a short reply
Lev 18:22 (NIV): " 'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable. "
Lev 20:13 (NIV): 'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."
Talking about Lev and the OT, if u treat them as valid and guidelines god has set, then in these passages it was also said
LV 11:3You may eat any animal that has a split hoof completely divided and that chews the cud.
4 " 'There are some that only chew the cud or only have a split hoof, but you must not eat them. The camel, though it chews the cud, does not have a split hoof; it is ceremonially unclean for you. 5 The coney, [a] though it chews the cud, does not have a split hoof; it is unclean for you. 6 The rabbit, though it chews the cud, does not have a split hoof; it is unclean for you. 7 And the pig, though it has a split hoof completely divided, does not chew the cud; it is unclean for you. 8 You must not eat their meat or touch their carcasses; they are unclean for you.
9 " 'Of all the creatures living in the water of the seas and the streams, you may eat any that have fins and scales. 10 But all creatures in the seas or streams that do not have fins and scales—whether among all the swarming things or among all the other living creatures in the water—you are to detest. 11 And since you are to detest them, you must not eat their meat and you must detest their carcasses. 12 Anything living in the water that does not have fins and scales is to be detestable to you.
So christians can not eat prawns, clams, oysters and pork ?
Rom 1:24-32 (NIV):
"Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NIV): "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters, nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."
Ahh... from Paul... So if the words he said r laws, then he also said the followings
1 Corinthians 11 5And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is just as though her head were shaved. 6If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head.
1 Corinthians 14 33As in all the congregations of the saints, 34women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. 35If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.
1 Timothy 2:11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent
So if u wanna follow paul's word, then ban all woman who has a supervision role ! Woman have to cover their head when they go to church otherwise they have to be bald ! Woman can't say anything in the church !
Since u felt the bible is infallible and watever it said has to be followed, then I offer this challenge to the christians out there who condemn homo,
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Originally posted by laoda99:The price of sin is death
He DID said his was the one and only way.
Your intepretation of the bible is typical of cults which view Christ as one of the gods or a demigod. A Christian will only worship Christ and no other gods.
Nope. He never said that. It was YOU who said that. -
If u insist, stick to your own intepretation.Originally posted by shade343:
Nope. He never said that. It was YOU who said that. -
Of course, you are also free to stick to your own opinions.Originally posted by laoda99:If u insist, stick to your own intepretation. -
Not to mention the state India is in got nothing to do with Hinduism.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:Making statements against a racial or religious group so as to stir social unrest is an offence under the Sedition Act. Forwarding your post to the relevant authorities...
The same problems he mentioned exist on the same level -povery, AIDS etc - in Africa, for example, with fair number of Christians and Muslims.
Can I say the same thing for Christianity and Islam?
I think because of such bigotry, the world problems cant never be solved -
See .. I told you pple SIS more easily summoned than earthing.Originally posted by stupidissmart:Icemoon seems to kep mentioning me in tis thread... I think i will just give a short reply
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Are you sure those Africans with AIDS are predominantly Christians and Muslims?Originally posted by laurence82:Not to mention the state India is in got nothing to do with Hinduism.
The same problems he mentioned exist on the same level -povery, AIDS etc - in Africa, for example, with fair number of Christians and Muslims.
Can I say the same thing for Christianity and Islam?
I think because of such bigotry, the world problems cant never be solved
They might be Catholics .. 'cos don't use condom will increase danger thousandfold .. haha -
It doesn't matter if people are Muslim, Catholic or Hindu. They are still going to screw around and cause innocent people to die.
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"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." - John 14:6 (KJV)Originally posted by shade343:The price of sin is suffering. So when jesus died for us, he suffered in place for us.
And no. Jesus never went around telling people that christianity was h eone and only religion. He only told people to follow God's way. He never said his was the one and only way.
Your intepretation of the bible, as usual, smacks of arrogance.
if you don't understand,
"Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." - John 14:6 (NKJV) -
So when Jesus said no one comes to the Father except through me...he means there are more than one way?
Please enlighten with a non-arrogant interpretation. -
Originally posted by SocialOutcast:
well, it obviously means only one way
So when Jesus said no one comes to the Father [b]except through me...he means there are more than one way?
Please enlighten with a non-arrogant interpretation.[/b] -
Originally posted by SocialOutcast:
you and sgfish were not around when shady gave his interpretation last time?
So when Jesus said no one comes to the Father [b]except through me...he means there are more than one way?
Please enlighten with a non-arrogant interpretation.[/b] -
Note that the price of sin is death....not sufferingOriginally posted by shade343:Of course, you are also free to stick to your own opinions.
Christ paid for our sins tat's why we are saved.... -
Erm, i dont distinguish between Catholics and ProstestantsOriginally posted by Icemoon:Are you sure those Africans with AIDS are predominantly Christians and Muslims?
They might be Catholics .. 'cos don't use condom will increase danger thousandfold .. haha
Technically, i am more apt to call a Catholic a Christian too