Non-Christians cannot go to heaven
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The infinite love of God is shown when Jesus sacrificed Himself for His "friends".Originally posted by shade343:TO ALL THOSE THAT BELIEVE THAT ONLY CHRISTIANS CAN GO TO HEAVEN:
Does it make sense to you that in an earth of over 6 billion Humans, that only a fraction of those would be saved from eternal damnation? How does that play into the infinite love of God?
I tell you. In the first place, God does not need us. What the potter makes, he can destroy if the clay is of no use to him.
If you want to debate who can enter heaven, I will not entertain you.
I believe that people who has not heard of the Gospel but still remain good and believe in a God would be able to enter heaven. Whether only christians can enter heaven or not, I leave it to God to judge and decide. I am no God and who am I to decide their destiny of going hell or heaven? Here the Good News tells me that the road to heaven is narrow and whether you want to go to heaven from the wide road or the narrow road is up to you.
"Will not the Judge of all the earth do right?" -
I guess you dont even know the true nature of humans. And the last question of the statement is a rhetorical question.Originally posted by happyharvest:The infinite love of God is shown when Jesus sacrificed Himself for His "friends".
I tell you. In the first place, God does not need us. What the potter makes, he can destroy if the clay is of no use to him.
If you want to debate who can enter heaven, I will not entertain you.
I believe that people who has not heard of the Gospel but still remain good and believe in a God would be able to enter heaven. Whether only christians can enter heaven or not, I leave it to God to judge and decide. I am no God and who am I to decide their destiny of going hell or heaven? Here the Good News tells me that the road to heaven is narrow and whether you want to go to heaven from the wide road or the narrow road is up to you.
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for example ? CNA ?Originally posted by maggot:Maybe this sgforum can be like some other forums that have some 24 hr MOD that checks the posts before they are posted in the forum
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I guess you don't understand what I mean.Originally posted by shade343:I guess you dont even know the true nature of humans. And the last question of the statement is a rhetorical question.
Anyway, gdnite. -
No. Baba would never do such things. To suspect him already shows misunderstanding on the individuals part.Originally posted by Icemoon:He maintained that the character of Baba "is suspect". Maybe you'd like to correct him on that?
No need to curse and swear at him yea?
Perhaps I might be a bit to hasty in my words but what Im saying is what goes around comes around. -
Originally posted by crazy monkey:for example ? CNA ?
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Somehow...tt sounds funny.Originally posted by happyharvest:I guess you don't understand what I mean.
Anyway, gdnite.
Good nite to you also
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Huh? Did I say that people dont go heaven?Originally posted by shade343:If people dont go to heaven, where do judgement occur then?
I said anyone, even non-religious people, can go heaven [as long as they have the wholesome karma], regardless of religion. But I do not believe in judgement.
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Baba is no God.Originally posted by shade343:No. Baba would never do such things. To suspect him already shows misunderstanding on the individuals part.
I guess it depends on the evidence for his suspicion bah. Let the facts speak for themselves. -
If you can suspect Jesus, then we cannot suspect Sai Baba? Double standards?Originally posted by shade343:No. Baba would never do such things. To suspect him already shows misunderstanding on the individuals part.
Perhaps I might be a bit to hasty in my words but what Im saying is what goes around comes around. -
wait .. dun shoot too fast.Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:If you can suspect Jesus, then we cannot suspect Sai Baba? Double standards?
Shade never suspects Jesus of bad character. To him .. all the religious founders have good characters. -
I never said he was God. Neither did he say he is God.Originally posted by Icemoon:Baba is no God.
I guess it depends on the evidence for his suspicion bah. Let the facts speak for themselves. -
Suspect Jesus? It was the Jews.Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:If you can suspect Jesus, then we cannot suspect Sai Baba? Double standards?
What Sai Baba is going throught right now is similar to what Jesus went through.... -
Jesus rose from the dead because of his divine nature. Baba is a mere mortal, like all of us.
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but thats what some christian say isnt tat contridictory ?Originally posted by shade343:TO ALL THOSE THAT BELIEVE THAT ONLY CHRISTIANS CAN GO TO HEAVEN:
Does it make sense to you that in an earth of over 6 billion Humans, that only a fraction of those would be saved from eternal damnation? How does that play into the infinite love of God? -
Nvm...its pointless talking about this. Your statement above just told me about your naivety. Believe what you wish. I just request that you do not propogate untruths about him. Thank you Very much.Originally posted by iveco:Jesus rose from the dead because of his divine nature. Baba is a mere mortal, like all of us. -
Then good. You have to admit that any bad character dont contradict with his beliefs, 'cos he is not God, as a result he is imperfect like all of us here.Originally posted by shade343:I never said he was God. Neither did he say he is God. -
Is your thinking so limited that, if one isnt God, he is a normal human?Originally posted by Icemoon:Then good. You have to admit that any bad character dont contradict with his beliefs, 'cos he is not God, as a result he is imperfect like all of us here. -
Then how do you classify Mother Theresa?Originally posted by shade343:Is your thinking so limited that, if one isnt God, he is a normal human?
Anyway, Lazer can back me up on Baba's character flaws. -
Why not ask me about John the Baptist?Originally posted by iveco:Then how do you classify Mother Theresa? -
So who does he say he is?Originally posted by shade343:Is your thinking so limited that, if one isnt God, he is a normal human? -
You mean the real one?Originally posted by shade343:Why not ask me about John the Baptist?
He is dead for so long, you know him very well? -
He calls himself Swami. There is a description of him said in the Quran. Let me try to find it....Originally posted by Icemoon:So who does he say he is? -
Actually i was being sarcarstic.Originally posted by Icemoon:You mean the real one?
He is dead for so long, you know him very well?
But I can say that John the baptist is not an ordinary human.... -
Quite dumb for an extraordinary person and cousin of Jesus.Originally posted by shade343:Actually i was being sarcarstic.
But I can say that John the baptist is not an ordinary human....
He baptised Jesus. He heard the voice from heaven. In the end, while he was in jail, he lost faith in Jesus.