Non-Christians cannot go to heaven

• launtpc

  4 Oct 05, 19:30

  knn, Christians always insult other people religion, like say their religion worhip devils.
  
  Go heaven -- so many people die, heaven and hell must be flooded. Population boom.
• crazy monkey

  4 Oct 05, 20:20

  Originally posted by fandango:

  Do you believe in Evolution? If you do, then you are a member of the religion of Darwinsim.

  Darwinsim is a religion ? first time i hear so is Darwin a prophet ?
• ben1xy

  4 Oct 05, 20:38

  Originally posted by crazy monkey:

  Darwinsim is a religion ? first time i hear so is Darwin a prophet ?

  first u must disect the meaning of religion mah. this in itself has many coonotations. religion doesnt only mean going to a temple or attending church. and yes.. some ppl treat evolution as a religion
• crazy monkey

  4 Oct 05, 20:39

  Originally posted by ben1xy:

  first u must disect the meaning of religion mah. this in itself has many coonotations. religion doesnt only mean going to a temple or attending church. and yes.. some ppl treat evolution as a religion

  i see it as a theory based on science.
• Chin Eng

  4 Oct 05, 20:42

  Originally posted by ben1xy:

  first u must disect the meaning of religion mah. this in itself has many coonotations. religion doesnt only mean going to a temple or attending church. and yes.. some ppl treat evolution as a religion

  yup, the idea of "WORSHIP" does not stop at one's knees and looking into heaven. It is the mindset of what is central to the individual's purpose of living.
  Some people treat money as their god, so they worship money. Wealth or the gathering of wealth become their religion.
• ben1xy

  4 Oct 05, 20:43

  Originally posted by crazy monkey:

  i see it as a theory based on science.

  so do i
• crazy monkey

  4 Oct 05, 20:44

  Originally posted by ben1xy:

  so do i

  i dun see it as a religion.
• Chin Eng

  4 Oct 05, 20:44

  Originally posted by crazy monkey:

  i see it as a theory based on science.

  It remains only as theory when the individual is still open to accepting the possibility that there is a supreme being. The moment the individual rejects the possibility of a supreme being and uses scientific theory as the sole basis for argument, it becomes a religion, like it or not.
• ben1xy

  4 Oct 05, 20:45

  Originally posted by Chin Eng:

  yup, the idea of "WORSHIP" does not stop at one's knees and looking into heaven. It is the mindset of what is central to the individual's purpose of living.
  Some people treat money as their god, so they worship money. Wealth or the gathering of wealth become their religion.

  i was actually gonna use money as an example. but i reckon it was to cliche hahaa.
  
  but yah .. as a friend of mine said 'religion is more like a set of value that is central and serves as a guideline in a person's life'
• ben1xy

  4 Oct 05, 20:45

  Originally posted by crazy monkey:

  i dun see it as a religion.

  yes yes.. i agree with u on this la
• ben1xy

  4 Oct 05, 20:47

  oo yah .. juz thought of it
  
  crazy monkey
  
  some people adhere to science as a religion
  
  i ain't kiddin
  
  the scope of religion isn't narrow. it encompasses much more.. depending on the individual
• sinnersotong

  5 Oct 05, 14:35

  feel the zeal!
  
  
• moonstone

  5 Oct 05, 15:19

  just heard of this recently. Some people in Australia actually believe 'The Force' exist not only in Starwars. You know the Starwars things...'May the force be with you' They strongly believe in that. And that becomes their religon.
• An Eternal Now

  5 Oct 05, 15:28

  Originally posted by moonstone:

  just heard of this recently. Some people in Australia actually believe 'The Force' exist not only in Starwars. You know the Starwars things...'May the force be with you' They strongly believe in that. And that becomes their religon.

  Starwars is influenced by Taoism throughout the show. That Yoda also spoke Taoist philosophies.
  
  The Tao is the natural order of things. It is a force that flows through every living and sentient object, as well as through the entire universe.
• sinnersotong

  5 Oct 05, 15:34

  Originally posted by fandango:

  for Taoist, even for good people, they still have to go to 18 storeys of hell.
  for Buddist, you have to super duper ultra hyper good to attain nirvana.
  for Catholics, even if you are good, you still have to be in purgatory for an infinite amount of time.
  for Christian, even if you are super duper ultra bad, if you are born-again, you can go to heaven.
  
  if liars cannot go to heaven, i am sure all of us have been disqualified from going to heaven.

  
• crazy monkey

  5 Oct 05, 15:37

  Originally posted by moonstone:

  just heard of this recently. Some people in Australia actually believe 'The Force' exist not only in Starwars. You know the Starwars things...'May the force be with you' They strongly believe in that. And that becomes their religon.

  like tat also can. so they worship yoda ?
• ben1xy

  5 Oct 05, 15:53

  Originally posted by crazy monkey:

  like tat also can. so they worship yoda ?

  in Argentina there's people that worship maradonna. not figuratively but literally. thats y religion can mean different things to different ppl
• Icemoon

  5 Oct 05, 18:45

  Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
  The Tao is the natural order of things. [b]It is a force that flows through every living and sentient object, as well as through the entire universe.[/b]

  In the Chinese Gospel of John it is written, "tai4 chu1 you3 dao4, dao4 yu3 shang4 di4 tong2 zai4 .."
  
  haha .. so got dark side in Taoism or not?
• SingaporeMacross

  5 Oct 05, 23:57

  fandango:
  
  Are Catholics born again?
• iveco

  6 Oct 05, 00:03

  Originally posted by moonstone:

  just heard of this recently. Some people in Australia actually believe 'The Force' exist not only in Starwars. You know the Starwars things...'May the force be with you' They strongly believe in that. And that becomes their religon.

  There are people who claim that their religion is "Jedi". Strange but true.
• An Eternal Now

  6 Oct 05, 00:28

  Originally posted by Icemoon:

  In the Chinese Gospel of John it is written, "tai4 chu1 you3 dao4, dao4 yu3 shang4 di4 tong2 zai4 .."
  
  haha .. so got dark side in Taoism or not?

  Taoism speaks of Yin and Yang mah
• Icemoon

  6 Oct 05, 01:03

  Originally posted by An Eternal Now:

  Taoism speaks of Yin and Yang mah

  yah .. someone needs to bring balance to the force .. lol
• wa|th3r

  6 Oct 05, 01:37

  Staying on e safe side it would best not to be presumptous when it concerns people's faith/religion, the belief of the existence of God/heaven, hell, purgatory...
  
  I've heard of some christians who said non-christians can't go to heaven. Taking back a few steps, don't Chirstians see God as supreme, inifinite, almighty? Using this a basis of my argument, it would be safe to say that human logic/intelligence cannot be compared to that of God's. What we may all think of what the bible says is correct...God probably sees it differently. In short, all of the human race could misinterpret a few lines there and about.
  
  So as for going to heaven? It would be best to leave it up to God himself.
  
  Right?
• iveco

  6 Oct 05, 01:39

  As long as you do good, you can go to heaven, regardless of religion. That's what I feel.
• fandango

  6 Oct 05, 01:43

  Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:

  fandango:
  
  Are Catholics born again?

  My personal conviction is this:
  
  Because being "born again" is to truely repent of your sins and to recieve Lord Jesus as your personal Saviour and your Lord, and to live your life according to the bible...i suspect that there ARE some (maybe a minute number) roman catholics that are truely born again but are entrapped in the Vatican's system and tradition without their knowledge.
  
  A lady friend asked me before, "Do you think Mother Teresa is born again?". I shared with her that since Mother Teresa is such a "high-ranking" nun and should know about the doctrines and theology of both Roman Catholism and Christianity, if she was truely born again, she would have left the Vatican long ago.
  
  This lady friend continued, "So, the more a Roman Catholic learns more about RC-ism and the more he/she becomes more devout, the less likely he/she is born again?" I said "most probably."