wats does conceived in iniquity means ?Originally posted by breytonhartge:yes, the bible says that we are conceived in iniquity
Psalm 51:5 (New King James Version)
5 Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity,
And in sin my mother conceived me.
you are born with sin.Originally posted by crazy monkey:wats does conceived in iniquity means ?
wat sin has a baby committed ?Originally posted by Icemoon:you are born with sin.
conceived in sin....Originally posted by crazy monkey:wats does conceived in iniquity means ?
one way to think of it - original sin.Originally posted by crazy monkey:wat sin has a baby committed ?
so for ppl of other religion and the free thinkers they are condemn to hell because they dun believe in Jesus Christ ?Originally posted by fandango:55. Are all members of other faiths bad? Are they all damned to Hell? Justify your answer with quotes from the Bible.
Everyone is "bad," sinful. This does include Christians (despite what some preachers may say). Only one Person that has ever walked this earth was not sinful, and that is Jesus Christ.
The Bible says that "all have fallen short of the glory of God." It doesn't say, "Only pagans, atheists, Muslims, Buddhists, and Hindus have fallen short of the glory of God," it says "all have." The only thing that can keep from the necessary condemnation is repentance and believing on Jesus Christ.
so where is the origin ?Originally posted by Icemoon:one way to think of it - original sin.
in short, yes again.Originally posted by crazy monkey:so for ppl of other religion and the free thinkers they are condemn to hell because they dun believe in Jesus Christ ?
you got the focus wrong. the focus is not Jesus Christ. It is SIN.Originally posted by crazy monkey:so for ppl of other religion and the free thinkers they are condemn to hell because they dun believe in Jesus Christ ?
Paul did say, "thru Adam all men have sinned".Originally posted by crazy monkey:so where is the origin ?
"Concieved in Sin" and "Sinning" is different things.Originally posted by Icemoon:one way to think of it - original sin.
edit: but then hor .. maybe brey can ans .. then how come God favours little children if they are conceived in sin? Some xtians believe all infants go heaven.
your explanation better.Originally posted by fandango:"Concieved in Sin" and "Sinning" is different things.
"Concieved in Sin" means the potential to commit sins.
"Sinning" is the act of commiting sins.
I had a talk with my friend who had a baby died during child birth. The Bible did tell us about David who said that he will meet his child again in heaven. So the arguement is what is the age limit that God had set for a child to go straight to heaven. I think our conclusion that day was, depending from child to child.
If a child can differentiate sin and know how to commit one even when he/she is 2 years old, he/she may not be allowed into heaven.
This might also explain those children with cerebral palsy. Only God knows if these children are unaware of commiting sins, then they will be in heaven.
hell must be really crowded then.Originally posted by fandango:in short, yes again.
Not sure. Hell may be so big that even though there are so many people there, they will not get to see each other.Originally posted by crazy monkey:hell must be really crowded then.
if ppl can meet in heaven why cant they meet in hell ?Originally posted by fandango:Not sure. Hell may be so big that even though there are so many people there, they will not get to see each other.
People think they want to go to hell because a lot of their friends will be there together. It is silly to think that way.