SO YOU WANT ME TO BECOME A CHRISTIAN?
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then how abt ppl who are born with bisexual organ or other physical deformities ? arent they god creation as well ?Originally posted by fandango:34. Do you believe that your god is anti-homosexual? If so, explain why he would create homosexuals in the first place. If not, refute or explain away Leviticus 20:13 and Romans 1:26-27.
He didn't create them, they chose that lifestyle. Why is it wrong? It's unnatural. If God wanted it that way, He would have made Adam and Steve (two men), or Amanda and Eve (two women). But obviously, He didn't.
Our modernist view is that homosexuals believe that they were born and created in that manner. They argue that they are either born with additional organs or the lack of. But there has been no scientific proof that this is true. Surely the world love proof-by-science, why the null results even up till this day? -
nothing wrong with asking questions.. but i find alot of those questions are unnessesary.. if the person asking them would think abit more, the answer's right there. i mean question asking if God created homosexuals?? i mean... come on la.. there are much better questions than that..
just wanna look good with alot of questions i guess
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you can choose not to answer if you dun want to this is a FREE country afterall.Originally posted by dumbdumb!:nothing wrong with asking questions.. but i find alot of those questions are unnessesary.. if the person asking them would think abit more, the answer's right there. i mean question asking if God created homosexuals?? i mean... come on la.. there are much better questions than that..
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Fandango, I help you on one question. Sorry for disrupting the sequence. Ya, this is a cut and paste answer:Originally posted by fandango:I will stop at question 45. Continue tomorrow.
93. Do you feel that the last words of Christ were significant? If so, why do the four gospels attribute three different sentences to Christ as his last? (Matthew 27:46 and Mark 15:34: "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?"; Luke 23:46: "Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit"; John 19:30: "It is finished".
Answer: http://www.carm.org/diff/Mark15_34.htm
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46. At no point in the four Gospels did Jesus claim to be the son of your god. (He said "son of man" quite frequently, and at one point referred to himself as "a son of god," but that was a common Hebrew expression at the time. Someone who was "a son of god" was a Jew. This reflected the Israelites' belief that they were the chosen people of your god. See Job 1:6). Why, then, do you believe that Jesus was divine? If you don't believe that Jesus was divine, then why do you call yourself a Christian?
Actually, look at Daniel 9. The term "Son of Man" is a term used for one who enters in the very presence of God, and is given absolute dominion and authority. This means that the term "Son of Man" can only be a term for the Jewish Messiah, a Person of great exaltation. This explains why the high priest Caiaphas tore his clothes when he heard Jesus make the remark about being the Son of Man; Jesus basically said that He was the Messiah. -
47. Given the fact that Jesus did not say anything original (the Golden Rule and the "turn the other cheek" idea were stolen from Buddhism; and the Beatitudes were common in the Jewish devotional literature at the time), why do you see Jesus as such a great thinker/philosopher/ethicist?
How did Jesus steal it from Buddhism, when no contact between ancient India and the Roman Empire to that time is ever recorded? Where are the Beatitudes in "the Jewish devotional literature [of] the time," and when did Buddha use the term "turn the other cheek?" -
48. When Jesus said, "Resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also," why do you suppose that most Christians fight for their rights? To put it another way, why don't we, as a country of 85% Christians, let the government abuse us?
Actually, you may have a point. Of course, some say that there is a limit. In countries all over the world, people are arrested, exiled, imprisoned, tortured, and killed for their faith in Christ. Today, more people are executed for their faith than during the 300 year time period that Christianity was in the Roman empire. And not just in Communist and Muslim countries. In South America, Marxist rebels and drug lords execute Christians just because they will not join their causes.
And the Catholic-oriented government doesn't help much, either (keep in mind, the RCC is not very tolerant toward Protestants, it's just that they can't do anything about it here in many democratic countries or republics).
Also when you say "85%", these "85%" include those that self-profess to be Christians who don't even go to church, who haven't even seen a page of the bible. -
49. Why are so many Christian holidays on the same day as Pagan holidays? Couldn't the early Church fathers have converted pagans only by appealing to their reason and/or faith if Christianity is the true religion?
Good question. Apparently, somebody thought it up, and everyone else either went along or was persecuted because they didn't follow the bandwagon. You must be aware that nobody know which day Jesus was born. People just slapped on 25th December as Christmas. Many Christians do not celebrate Christmas as the world do. -
50. Explain how your god can be "just and merciful" in light of Exodus 20:5.
Like it says, He's a jealous god. Why worship something that doesn't exist? Plus, it is more than likely that whatever ideas that you believe will be passed along through your children, so God's only doing what is deserved. Look at the kings of Israel. After the kingdom split into Israel (the ten northern tribes) and Judah (the tribes of Judah and Benjamin), the kings of Israel didn't have one God-fearing king! Why else do you think that they were conquered by Assyria? -
51. Do you believe that the Old Testament should be accepted as part of Christian theology? If so, explain how you can worship such a cruel, sadistic asshole (see Numbers 31:17-18, Deuteronomy 20:16, Proverbs 20:30, Amos 3:6, Deuteronomy 13:8, Psalms 3:7, Psalms 52:5, etc.); if not, explain how you can believe that Jesus is the promised savior sent by your god without the messianic prophecies and the ruling rights of the line of David, both of which are in the Old Testament in books such as Isaiah, Zechariah, Daniel, Psalms, etc. (as opposed to, say, believing that Jesus was an irritating nut wandering around saying things that people didn't like much).
I would really like it if you didn't curse out my Lord, God, Savior, and King. I try not to show excessive disdain (or any, if possible) towards your belief system. All of these passages refer to those that do not believe, and probably will never believe. These people will fight against and reject God no matter what, and then drag Israel down along with them.
In order to protect God's chosen people, He had to somehow get rid of them. And since they would have not been saved anyway, it almost wouldn't have mattered. Yes, I know this is a cruel thing to say, but that is what appears to me the be the truth. -
52. Explain why your "just and merciful" god sent bears to kill forty-two children who called his prophet Elisha "baldhead." (See 2 Kings 2:23-24).
Once more, these people reject not only God, but those that He sent to them. From the description, these young men would have killed Elisha, given the chance. Why? Simple, they were diametrically opposed to his teachings, which were that of holiness, righteousness, and condemnation of the wicked lives that they and the general public were living in at the time. Their hearts were so hardened, because of their love for that wickedness, that they would never have repented, so then the only thing to do was keep them from hindering the prophet's mission. -
53. If prostitution is wrong, why are there so many examples of it in Genesis? (For instance, Gen 19:8, where Lot offers his daughters to a mob so that his guests can avoid gang rape).
The world at that time was evil and chaotic. Look at where that happened: Sodom. This city was so corrupt, that men would even sacrifice their own daughters. Of course, you do have to look at the context: Lot understood that his guests were in fact supernatural beings sent from God, so he obviously didn't want any harm to come to them (means punishment on him, and even more on the town). And look at the mob: they didn't want Lot's daughters, but instead only the two guests that looked male.
If you look at the events of the world today, we sure looks like we are back in the days of Sodom again. -
54. What is the sin that people committed that is so incredibly bad that your god had to become flesh and die to correct?
Any and every one. Just count the number of lies you said since you were born. How many have you chalked up? Sin is rebellion against God, plain and simple. -
55. Are all members of other faiths bad? Are they all damned to Hell? Justify your answer with quotes from the Bible.
Everyone is "bad," sinful. This does include Christians (despite what some preachers may say). Only one Person that has ever walked this earth was not sinful, and that is Jesus Christ.
The Bible says that "all have fallen short of the glory of God." It doesn't say, "Only pagans, atheists, Muslims, Buddhists, and Hindus have fallen short of the glory of God," it says "all have." The only thing that can keep from the necessary condemnation is repentance and believing on Jesus Christ. -
so is soldiering wrong in christianity ? where ppl are train to fight and kill ?Originally posted by fandango:53. If prostitution is wrong, why are there so many examples of it in Genesis? (For instance, Gen 19:8, where Lot offers his daughters to a mob so that his guests can avoid gang rape).
The world at that time was evil and chaotic. Look at where that happened: Sodom. This city was so corrupt, that men would even sacrifice their own daughters. Of course, you do have to look at the context: Lot understood that his guests were in fact supernatural beings sent from God, so he obviously didn't want any harm to come to them (means punishment on him, and even more on the town). And look at the mob: they didn't want Lot's daughters, but instead only the two guests that looked male.
If you look at the events of the world today, we sure looks like we are back in the days of Sodom again. -
no body wants you to become christian and no one can make you one.
in view of this. i shall ignore this topic
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so even babies are sinful the day they are born ?Originally posted by fandango:55. Are all members of other faiths bad? Are they all damned to Hell? Justify your answer with quotes from the Bible.
Everyone is "bad," sinful. This does include Christians (despite what some preachers may say). Only one Person that has ever walked this earth was not sinful, and that is Jesus Christ.
The Bible says that "all have fallen short of the glory of God." It doesn't say, "Only pagans, atheists, Muslims, Buddhists, and Hindus have fallen short of the glory of God," it says "all have." The only thing that can keep from the necessary condemnation is repentance and believing on Jesus Christ. -
ignore and you still come and post.Originally posted by NT2:no body wants you to become christian and no one can make you one.
in view of this. i shall ignore this topic 
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According to the Bible, no. soldiering is not wrong. But the condition is that if the army is formed to attack and kill God's people, then being a soldier in THAT army is wrong.Originally posted by crazy monkey:so is soldiering wrong in christianity ? where ppl are train to fight and kill ? -
In short, yes.Originally posted by crazy monkey:so even babies are sinful the day they are born ? -
yes, the bible says that we are conceived in iniquityOriginally posted by crazy monkey:so even babies are sinful the day they are born ?
Psalm 51:5 (New King James Version)
5 Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity,
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to show that i see but then ignore mahOriginally posted by crazy monkey:ignore and you still come and post. 
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56. Are all atheists/agnostics/humanists bad? Are they all damned to Hell? Justify your answer with quotes from the Bible.
I consider them in the same category as "members of other faiths" as you put it in question 55. -
57. What was your motive in proselytizing to me?
Obviously, I wouldn't mind getting you to become a believer, but I also wouldn't mind setting the record straight. -
58. Where is Heaven?
Which one? There are three: the atmospheric heavens around the Earth, where Satan and the demons that are not tortured in Tartarus live; the stellar heavens, a.k.a. the visible universe; and the third heaven, a.k.a. the Father's House and the Throne of God.