Can the old and illiterate go to church and become christian
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Spirit? ha ha... remind me of a song, spirit wings.Originally posted by M©+square:your spirit doesn't give you the peace?
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Originally posted by happyharvest:Spirit? ha ha... remind me of a song, spirit wings.
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if you can't decipher the mumbo jumbo .. then your mouth shd be shut as well.Originally posted by crazy monkey:all the mumbo jumbo. if you cant make up your mind wat to believe in, just keep your mouth shut. 
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looking at the Catholic church hor.. during times of repression.. this is when christian are most filled with zeal and fire for God.Originally posted by happyharvest:Some of my church members went to China villages (forget where liao) there for mission. The christian network there is already very strong liao and are expanding quite fast. Basically, you know that people living there are illiterate. When they went there, there were amazed by how knowledgeable they are in the scripture. Some of them were "tested" and mind you they don't know. The people there are really strong in their faith.... and of course they bring many stories and photos when they came back.
The bible tells us the last will be first and the first will be last ....
the same goes for countries where chritianity is repressed... the people there will be of much stronger faith. i mean juz taking the step to be a christian in a country where persecution takes place is a big step in faith. that speaks volumes in itself. a lot of priest in Asutralia come from Vietnam.. there in the past.. catholicsm was outlawed
it is during good times.. that ppl start to get lazy and complacent. -
weird piece of sh*t maybe just release from IMHOriginally posted by happyharvest:Icemoon is a weird forumer. I dun feel good talking to him in the beginning le. Weird guy/gal/gay? -
Originally posted by ben1xy:theist with a judeo-christian perspective? monotheistic .. but then are u more inclined towards judaism or christianity?
I find the judaism view of certain things more rational and logical.
Like the example I often give, how can you ask God to forgive you if you did wrong to another person? somehow the idea that Jesus forgives your sins, even sins against other pple, is bit weird.
I wun say i'm more inclined towards which, 'cos ultimately i not even attended a single Jewish sabbath service b4 .. but attended tons of church services and bible studies and even a catholic tridentine mass .. haha -
aiya make peace lah .. dun escalate to a flame war by calling pple names (ad hominem) .. k?Originally posted by crazy monkey:weird piece of sh*t maybe just release from IMH -
God forgives your sins if you forgive others for their wrongdoings. The main things is not holding any personal grudges, which I can see is rampant around these parts.Originally posted by Icemoon:Like the example I often give, how can you ask God to forgive you if you did wrong to another person? somehow the idea that Jesus forgives your sins, even sins against other pple, is bit weird. -
what if the one with wrongdoings is you?Originally posted by iveco:God forgives your sins if you forgive others for their wrongdoings. The main things is not holding any personal grudges, which I can see is rampant around these parts. -
It is a lot easier for the old and illiterate to go to church and become Christians than for the young and educated.... WHY?
The old and illiterate do not attempt to rationalise and question, and that he is to be recycled. The young will think that he has a lot of mileage ahead and he is too smart for God.....
There are lots of churches that ministers to such folks..... -
ok .. i sooo agree with that smart part
The young will think that he has a lot of mileage ahead and he is too smart for God.....
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Agreed.Originally posted by Chin Eng:It is a lot easier for the old and illiterate to go to church and become Christians than for the young and educated.... WHY?
The old and illiterate do not attempt to rationalise and question, and that he is to be recycled. The young will think that he has a lot of mileage ahead and he is too smart for God.....
Many intellectuals are too arrogant to claim His mercy. -
YESOriginally posted by Chin Eng:It is a lot easier for the old and illiterate to go to church and become Christians than for the young and educated.... WHY?
The old and illiterate do not attempt to rationalise and question, and that he is to be recycled. The young will think that he has a lot of mileage ahead and he is too smart for God.....
There are lots of churches that ministers to such folks.....
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but if they dun rationalise mean they dun understand if they dun understand mean their foundation not deep if their foundation not deep mean they may convert to other religion.Originally posted by Chin Eng:It is a lot easier for the old and illiterate to go to church and become Christians than for the young and educated.... WHY?
The old and illiterate do not attempt to rationalise and question, and that he is to be recycled. The young will think that he has a lot of mileage ahead and he is too smart for God.....
There are lots of churches that ministers to such folks..... -
There is the Holy Spirit.Originally posted by crazy monkey:but if they dun rationalise mean they dun understand if they dun understand mean their foundation not deep if their foundation not deep mean they may convert to other religion.
And if you buy Calvin's argument, there is total depravity and irresistable grace. -
That's one way of looking at it.Originally posted by crazy monkey:but if they dun rationalise mean they dun understand if they dun understand mean their foundation not deep if their foundation not deep mean they may convert to other religion.
Another way is when one does not NEED to rationalise further because one fully understood.
Anyway, if they want to convert to another religion, by all means go ahead. -
wat holy sh*t ?Originally posted by Icemoon:There is the Holy Spirit.
And if you buy Calvin's argument, there is total depravity and irresistable grace. -
hai....Originally posted by Icemoon:There is the Holy Spirit.
And if you buy Calvin's argument, there is total depravity and irresistable grace.
Are you studying on it? -
haiz .. got too many things to do now .. no time for theology.Originally posted by M©+square:hai....
Are you studying on it? -
.Originally posted by crazy monkey:wat holy sh*t ?
Holy Spirit.
Even I not Christian also cap all the names and even "H" in "He" when referring to Jesus Christ.
dun try to pretend u dunno what Holy Spirit. if you dunno, now I tell you .. Holy Spirit is God. -
Can? why not?Originally posted by crazy monkey:hope the expert here can enlighten me on the above question. -
x 2Originally posted by ben1xy:ok .. i sooo agree with that smart part
A lot of time, simple people get closer to God more easily than the educated and intellectual ones, cuz they don't question. They just have faith and believe. -
issit it true for those old ppl who go temple and burn joss sticks and bai bai ?Originally posted by Honeybunz:x 2
A lot of time, simple people get closer to God more easily than the educated and intellectual ones, cuz they don't question. They just have faith and believe.
They just have faith and believe. -
Seriously, i do wonder what Taoist believe in?Originally posted by crazy monkey:issit it true for those old ppl who go temple and burn joss sticks and bai bai ?
They just have faith and believe. -
on the outside yes. we wun know on the inside issit 'cos of the Holy Spirit or what.Originally posted by crazy monkey:issit it true for those old ppl who go temple and burn joss sticks and bai bai ?
They just have faith and believe.