What is the Christian love?
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The non believers argue that all orthodox religions teach love. We have heard how Christians like to claim GOD is love and indeed, in the Bible, we seen many times the word love (and all its variant like agape in Greek) is used.
So how is love in Christianity different from love in other religions? For example, Buddhism talks about compassion, so how's this different from the Christian love? And is love emphasized in Taoism? Blah blah ..
Everyone is welcome to contribute, regardless of his/her faith. Those with no faith (like SIS) can also discuss from the point of secular humanism.
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I start first.
We see in Buddhism, how Dizhang Wang (some call him Dizhang Buddha?!) volunteered to go hell 'cos if he didn't, who will?
Also, Guanyin missed her chance to become Buddha 'cos she wanted to help mankind in their salvation.
How are these different from Jesus dying on the cross? -
All Love taught by each religion is the same. It means the same thing. There is no difference. Love is universal.
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I'd like to hear a Muslim PoV on this matter. Any Muslim here?
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chronicles? lol .. maybe not.Originally posted by iveco:I'd like to hear a Muslim PoV on this matter. Any Muslim here? -
Then quickly think of something different lah .. or else nothing to discussOriginally posted by shade343:All Love taught by each religion is the same. It means the same thing. There is no difference. Love is universal.
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The highest love is Unconditional Love/Compassion. All differences dissolve in unconditional love.
You still love your Buddhist friends... your Muslim friends... etc. -
What about Divine Love?Originally posted by An Eternal Now:The highest love is Unconditional Love. All differences dissolve in unconditional love.
You still love your Buddhist friends... your Muslim friends... etc. -
and it include who u have love/compassion for
i cant believe people who put down Mother Theresa or John Paul, i must have repeat this too many a times, but i still say it, for the work of love they all have done for all human beings as possible
and the people who put them down are people who do nuthing but preaches on love all day...
how to reconcile this?
for me, it also include love for animals... -
IMHO, Divine Love = Unconditional love. To ALL.Originally posted by shade343:What about Divine Love? -
Di Zhang Wang Pu Sa, Pu Sa = Bodhisattva, not yet a Buddha. He vowed to empty the hells before he attains Buddhahood (Di Yu Bu Kong, Shi Bu Cheng Fo)Originally posted by Icemoon:I start first.
We see in Buddhism, how Dizhang Wang (some call him Dizhang Buddha?!) volunteered to go hell 'cos if he didn't, who will?
Also, Guanyin missed her chance to become Buddha 'cos she wanted to help mankind in their salvation.
How are these different from Jesus dying on the cross? -
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Everyone pls go watch.....
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When didn't Guanyin become a Buddha then?Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Di Zhang Wang Pu Sa, Pu Sa = Bodhisattva, not yet a Buddha. He vowed to empty the hells before he attains Buddhahood (Di Yu Bu Kong, Shi Bu Cheng Fo) He vowed to pu du zhong sheng issit? -
You can say so.Originally posted by Icemoon:When didn't Guanyin become a Buddha then? He vowed to pu du zhong sheng issit?
The reason why Bodhisattvas can do this is because they have not even subtle discriminations over Samsara and Nirvana, and has unconditional love for all. Guan Yin treats Samsara as his home. -
na bei samsara .. christy chung and RAOriginally posted by An Eternal Now:You can say so. The reason why Bodhisattvas can do this is because they have not even subtle discriminations over Samsara and Nirvana, and has unconditional love for all. Guan Yin treats Samsara as his home.
oh .. samsara is where some of u pple like to chiong also right?
I'm glad you treat Guan Yin as a male. (bet u said they have no gender) -
In Christianity, there is Love. But the same Love cannot be divorced from Truth. Many Christians do not recognise that.Originally posted by Icemoon:The non believers argue that all orthodox religions teach love. We have heard how Christians like to claim GOD is love and indeed, in the Bible, we seen many times the word love (and all its variant like agape in Greek) is used.
So how is love in Christianity different from love in other religions? For example, Buddhism talks about compassion, so how's this different from the Christian love? And is love emphasized in Taoism? Blah blah ..
Everyone is welcome to contribute, regardless of his/her faith. Those with no faith (like SIS) can also discuss from the point of secular humanism.
That is why we see so many "modern" churches preach only about love and love and love and more love. They no longer preach about sin, about repentence, about doctrines, and about biblical truth.
For example, say,
a Christian couple has a daughter.
The daughter is a Christian but back-slidden.
The daugther got into a relationship with a man, non christian
The have a child in wedlock.
They want to get married.
if you are the Christian couple, do you give you give them the blessing?
A mordern church will preach: "yes, why not. although she has sinned, she is till you daughter. maybe the son-in-law will be converted after marriage"
thats is a lot of love, but no truth.
A fundamental church will preach: "no, you cannot give them your blessings, you daughter have chose to be unequally yoked, all you can do is to pray for her that she will recognise her sins and repent, and pray for her boyfriend too."
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Samsara is everywhere in this world.Originally posted by Icemoon:na bei samsara .. christy chung and RA
oh .. samsara is where some of u pple like to chiong also right?
I'm glad you treat Guan Yin as a male. (bet u said they have no gender)
In Tibet, Avalokitesvara is Male. In China, it is Female. In Dharmadatu, it is Neither. -
Samsara got many branches in the world?Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Samsara is everywhere in this world.
In Tibet, Avalokitesvara is Male. In China, it is Female. In Dharmadatu, it is Neither.
In China .. it is male .. read Feng Shen Yan Yi. I think all the Boddhisativa (sp?) inside are males? Wen Zhu .. Pu Xian .. ? -
Anywhere where sentient beings like us live is considered Samsara. In Buddhism, even Heaven is still part of Samsara.Originally posted by Icemoon:Samsara got many branches in the world?
In China .. it is male .. read Feng Shen Yan Yi. I think all the Boddhisativa (sp?) inside are males? Wen Zhu .. Pu Xian .. ?
That book is not a Buddhist book, more like a Chinese Mythology book. Anyway, Bodhisattvas in China often have a feminine depiction unlike Tibet.
This sutra states the different manifests of Avalokitesvara Bodhisattva, the part starting with "Endless Intention Bodhisattva addressed the Buddha, saying, "World Honored One. Why does Observer of the World's Sounds Bodhisattva roam about in this Sahaa World? Why does he speak Dharma for beings? And what is the extent of the power of his skillful means?"
BTW, is it rude to be discussing Buddhist things in this forum? It's ok for me to discuss anywhere but I don't know how the moderators feel. I think it's better for me to stop discussing it here. -
Why so many bloody edits.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Anywhere where sentient beings like us live is considered Samsara. In Buddhism, even Heaven is still part of Samsara.
That book is not a Buddhist book, more like a Chinese Mythology book. Anyway, Bodhisattvas in China often have a feminine depiction unlike Tibet.
This sutra states the different manifests of Avalokitesvara Bodhisattva, the part starting with "Endless Intention Bodhisattva addressed the Buddha, saying, "World Honored One. Why does Observer of the World's Sounds Bodhisattva roam about in this Sahaa World? Why does he speak Dharma for beings? And what is the extent of the power of his skillful means?"
BTW, is it rude to be discussing Buddhist things in this forum? It's ok for me to discuss anywhere but I don't know how the moderators feel. I think it's better for me to stop discussing it here. -
Sorry about thatOriginally posted by M©+square:Why so many bloody edits. I'm a very careless writer. -
1 Corinthians 13:4-7 --- 4Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
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What do you understand about Love then?Originally posted by bluewinged:1 Corinthians 13:4-7 --- 4Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. -
its all written in the bible scripture i suppose. everyday i just remind myself wad love is, although i cant fulfill everyone of wad it is, at least i know wad love is and how i shld improve on myself?
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Do whatever you deem is right in his walk.Originally posted by bluewinged:its all written in the bible scripture i suppose. everyday i just remind myself wad love is, although i cant fulfill everyone of wad it is, at least i know wad love is and how i shld improve on myself?
Cheers