Evidences of a cursed earth.
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it isnt something to be taught of.but one which u gotta experience it to know that its true.
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fair enough
juz remember that faith is more than juz emotions.. its something deeper (u need not always feel emotionally high ... sometimes it hits u with a beautiful inner peace too!). as long as u can understand that ... i think u'll do fine.
the Lord is my shepherd; i have everything i need - Psalm 23:1
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then let's challenge fandango to experience one ..Originally posted by bluewinged:it isnt something to be taught of.but one which u gotta experience it to know that its true.
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I attended NCC .. Prince very clever .. he criticised charismatic pastors one you know? One of his favourite line, "you know, the charismatics like to say .. ".Originally posted by fandango:i must say that we seldom see people from CHC and New Creation in this forum.
i think bluewing need to read more about "slain" by the spirit by himself, rather than following whatever his church teaches.
So far I not seen a single case of spirit slaining in NCC. Their tongues also not very loud (they dun often speak it). Where is our kangaroo moderator? He has seen any?
CHC is too much. They like to slay people like nobody's biz. It is exactly like the Sook Ching massacre during WWII, except more causalties this time. Na bei .. they form one long line .. pastor touch their foreheads then they fall .. then another line forms .. the process continues. Even faster than the Catholic priest giving bread and wine on the front row. Why not just like Zhang Wuji jiu yang sheng gong lidat pple fall down in multitudes? Don't even need to touch foreheads ..
Btw CHC has webcasts of its service. You can see the slaining of spirit on video - no joke. -
correct me if i am wrong... but i thought new creation is more towards the charismatic side? i attended once ... the seats are very comfy!!Originally posted by Icemoon:I attended NCC .. Prince very clever .. he criticised charismatic pastors one you know? One of his favourite line, "you know, the charismatics like to say .. ". -
it is non-denominational. Ya .. officially it is charismatic bah?Originally posted by ben1xy:correct me if i am wrong... but i thought new creation is more towards the charismatic side? i attended once ... the seats are very comfy!!
but at least I don't see them do funny and silly things like the other two mega churches (won't name them for courtesy sake). Ya seats very comfy .. auditorium leh!!
PS: the worship leaders in NCC quite good.
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does Rev. Kong give bible study sessions to public? Something along the line of NCC's midweek service.Originally posted by bluewinged:it isnt something to be taught of.but one which u gotta experience it to know that its true. -
Originally posted by Icemoon:
Can show me the links to those webcasts?
I attended NCC .. Prince very clever .. he criticised charismatic pastors one you know? One of his favourite line, "you know, the charismatics like to say .. ".
So far I not seen a single case of spirit slaining in NCC. Their tongues also not very loud (they dun often speak it). [b]Where is our kangaroo moderator? He has seen any?
CHC is too much. They like to slay people like nobody's biz. It is exactly like the Sook Ching massacre during WWII, except more causalties this time. Na bei .. they form one long line .. pastor touch their foreheads then they fall .. then another line forms .. the process continues. Even faster than the Catholic priest giving bread and wine on the front row. Why not just like Zhang Wuji jiu yang sheng gong lidat pple fall down in multitudes? Don't even need to touch foreheads ..
Btw CHC has webcasts of its service. You can see the slaining of spirit on video - no joke.[/b]
I had been to CHC several time in the past but I have not seen them slaining people yet. Would be interesting to see the process.
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Can show me the links to those webcasts?
I had visited CHC several time in the past but I have not seen them slaining people yet. Would be interesting to see the process. -
http://www.chc.org.sg/english/video.cfm
as you mentioned, not every week have one. So either u ask CHC pple or heng suay lor.
last time I used to keep a slaining video in one of their services. but deleted liao .. haha .. I think that time I knew was 'cos I attended the service live. -
There are so many videos in the site. I don't know which one le. You know? Can point me to a specify video links?Originally posted by Icemoon:http://www.chc.org.sg/english/video.cfm
as you mentioned, not every week have one. So either u ask CHC pple or heng suay lor.
last time I used to keep a slaining video in one of their services. but deleted liao .. haha .. I think that time I knew was 'cos I attended the service live. -
I also dunno which one got spirit slaining leh .. ask the chc pple lor.Originally posted by jnwk:There are so many videos in the site. I don't know which one le. You know? Can point me to a specify video links?
Usually spirit slaining will be towards end of service. Maybe you download everyone and skip to the end .. -
Ok ok, anyway, I dun want to know le.Originally posted by Icemoon:I also dunno which one got spirit slaining leh .. ask the chc pple lor.
Usually spirit slaining will be towards end of service. Maybe you download everyone and skip to the end .. -
Originally posted by Icemoon:
Slaining is not new in the very strict sense of the word. It has been around since the 1980s in charismatic churches in Singapore. I myself have experienced this in one of these churches many years back. I went up like many others and as the Pastor laid his hand on me in the name of Jesus, I felt a tremendous force - not human effort - that overwhelmed me. Best part was - the Pastor's hand was not even touching me! His hand was just above my head and I fell backwards. But I knew tat was the work of the Holy Spirit, as I spoke in tongues in the name of Jesus (I was totally not in control) and I felt a deep sense of warmth and love from the Holy Spirit.....I claimed all these in the mighty name of Jesus, to make sure this was from God.
I attended NCC .. Prince very clever .. he criticised charismatic pastors one you know? One of his favourite line, "you know, the charismatics like to say .. ".
So far I not seen a single case of spirit slaining in NCC. Their tongues also not very loud (they dun often speak it). [b]Where is our kangaroo moderator? He has seen any?
CHC is too much. They like to slay people like nobody's biz. It is exactly like the Sook Ching massacre during WWII, except more causalties this time. Na bei .. they form one long line .. pastor touch their foreheads then they fall .. then another line forms .. the process continues. Even faster than the Catholic priest giving bread and wine on the front row. Why not just like Zhang Wuji jiu yang sheng gong lidat pple fall down in multitudes? Don't even need to touch foreheads ..
Btw CHC has webcasts of its service. You can see the slaining of spirit on video - no joke.[/b]
Slaining is the result of the Holy Spirit touching the individual, be it a situation of healing, counselling, blessing etc. It doesn't matter who is leading the church service - which pastor or whatever church - so long as the name of Jesus is glorified. Any slaining or tongues or any miracle that we see/experience, if it leads to the glory of God, then its from the Holy Spirit....not the pastor/leader/church.
Let's not limit God. He has His ways that can be beyond our human understanding. One example - which you will be surprised to find it in the bible:
"God did extraordinary miracles thru Paul. Handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them" Acts 19:11,12
My point is - there are churches tat are charismatic, there are those who are not, there are churches tat appear to be more "modern and up to date"; there are those who prefer the conservative approach; there are churches tat prefer to stick to hymns, there are those have Hillsong worship or even rock worship; there are churches strong in the area of healing/tongues, there are churches who are better with the teaching of the Word or community service.......it doesn't matter.
So long as the Name of Jesus is glorified, so long as lives are changed for the better, so long as there are no deviation in our fundamental beliefs as stated in the bible, then its fine.
CHC and NCC are 2 of many good churches in Singapore.....and btw, i'm not from CHC.[/b]