What do christians think of psychics or faith healers?
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By the way, abt idol worship, seen many christians who purposely go and talk abt other faiths idol worshipping and all that
Denying idol worship is one thing, flame other faiths is another.
Why must go and pick on what other faiths believe? -
wahah .. this one is for the CatholicsOriginally posted by laurence82:Actually, they also pray to idol mah, to statue of jesus and mary mah...
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no lar, Protestant Church no statue or figurine of jesus meh?Originally posted by Icemoon:wahah .. this one is for the Catholics
Do they sell action figures of jesus in retail shops, battery included? -
Such talk should be confined within the walls of the church.Originally posted by laurence82:By the way, abt idol worship, seen many christians who purposely go and talk abt other faiths idol worshipping and all that
Denying idol worship is one thing, flame other faiths is another.
Why must go and pick on what other faiths believe? -
Don't have.Originally posted by laurence82:no lar, Protestant Church no statue or figurine of jesus meh? -
I did say this before, if such talks is confined to church walls and cell groups, i would be a super kpo auntie to go and eavesdrop.Originally posted by Icemoon:Such talk should be confined within the walls of the church.
But then again, thnk Islam extremism. They started the same way. Extremism is preached within madrasah walls around the world. -
but christian extremism is founded on love. Islam extremism is founded on .. hate?Originally posted by laurence82:But then again, thnk Islam extremism. They started the same way. Extremism is preached within madrasah walls around the world. -
Cool, so its really a big protestant problem isnt it?Originally posted by Icemoon:Don't have.
really pin down who's the bigot for me..
In fact ,the poor Catholics have been ostracised for idol worshipping, but then, i hope no one go and rekindle the debate here... -
In many ways, they took the same line as christians. such as belief that non believers will perish in hell.Originally posted by Icemoon:but christian extremism is founded on love. Islam extremism is founded on .. hate?
There is distinct 'I' and 'them' thing in christianity and islam.
Even then, only extremists bring hate into a faith. The true Islam founded by Mohammed is based on hate?
Consider their actions, and i did say, such talks are springboard for hate, dissent, and violence.
Whats the difference between creating dissent and committing violence itself?
They have the same end
M.A.D. -
I'm not sure how Muslim extremists see non believers so I won't comment on this. However, the end result of Muslim extremism is kill others and kill themselves .. but xtians extremists don't kill. They just make you more irritated.
Yah, only extremists bring hate, you mentioned within the madrasah walls did't you? -
No no, my question was, is there a big difference in creating dissent and committing the violence itself?Originally posted by Icemoon:I'm not sure how Muslim extremists see non believers so I won't comment on this. However, the end result of Muslim extremism is kill others and kill themselves .. but xtians extremists don't kill. They just make you more irritated.
Yah, only extremists bring hate, you mentioned within the madrasah walls did't you?
To me, they are the same thing, because both will reach the same end - MAD
Yes, extremists bring hate within madrasah walls, then like the greasy long arm which greedily reach out for snatches of candies, they spread...everywhere..
see what i mean? -
pls enlighten me bah ...Originally posted by shade343:I assure you, I dont think you are indifferent.
wad do i feel then?
i've nv been to any of these services.. watched a few programmes on discovery ... basically thats it.
oo and i've been to a few healing masses.. accompanied my Godma once.. basically thats it -
yup .. i personally know of 1 ...Originally posted by laurence82:yes, but is there?
it happened at the Sabah retreat (i think some catholics know of this... used to be conducted by Father Vincent Lee) , 2 cases of cancer were cured and there was a case of levitation. My dad attended the retreat and he saw everything. the 1 of the cancer case was from my church... we've been praying for him for quite long. -
Hey! Dont Condemn!Originally posted by Icemoon:but christian extremism is founded on love. Islam extremism is founded on .. hate?
Extremisim is not taught by any religion... -
aiyah ... misconception again.Originally posted by laurence82:Actually, they also pray to idol mah, to statue of jesus and mary mah...
sighz... got a feeling this is gonna lead to the idol debate thing again .... -
Certain Christians condems psychics as evil and ungodly. This is not true. So as long as you dont condemn it, its ok.Originally posted by ben1xy:pls enlighten me bah ...
wad do i feel then?
i've nv been to any of these services.. watched a few programmes on discovery ... basically thats it.
oo and i've been to a few healing masses.. accompanied my Godma once.. basically thats it
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Whne the bibile says that you shouldnt pray to idol, it refers to those idols that have the image of the devil or evil in them. So whats wrong with praying to a statue of godly image?
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Thats the point i am trying to get at.Originally posted by ben1xy:aiyah ... misconception again.
sighz... got a feeling this is gonna lead to the idol debate thing again ....
Misconception.
Already i noted two things. Last year there was a debate in chit chat when some christians confront other faiths on idol worship, and whether there is a misconception or not, it doesnt give a right for one to debate the issue on how other faiths conduct their worship.
Second is the accusation and debate this year that the Catholics are idol worshipping mary.
But then like i said, i hope the deabte wont rekindle here. -
To you no idol is not worth praying. cos you believe in many gods. I hope you understand Protestant xtians see it differently.Originally posted by shade343:Whne the bibile says that you shouldnt pray to idol, it refers to those idols that have the image of the devil or evil in them. So whats wrong with praying to a statue of godly image? -
Would you believe it if i tell u TCM cures my fren's fren's dad of cancer?Originally posted by ben1xy:yup .. i personally know of 1 ...
it happened at the Sabah retreat (i think some catholics know of this... used to be conducted by Father Vincent Lee) , 2 cases of cancer were cured and there was a case of levitation. My dad attended the retreat and he saw everything. the 1 of the cancer case was from my church... we've been praying for him for quite long.
Now that i have another friend whose dad is now sufferring from stomach cancer due to excessive smoking, he is being given that combi of herbs to cure his cancer.
i did ask my mum if TCM can help cure cancer, my mum relate to me of cases where she know TCM long has cure for cancer that is not as devastating as chemotheraphy.
The reason why i question christian faith in miracles, because few months ago one particular christian here did the same to Chinese mediums and healers.
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lol.. i knew this was gonna come outOriginally posted by laurence82:Would you believe it if i tell u TCM cures my fren's fren's dad of cancer?
Now that i have another friend whose dad is now sufferring from stomach cancer due to excessive smoking, he is being given that combi of herbs to cure his cancer.
i did ask my mum if TCM can help cure cancer, my mum relate to me of cases where she know TCM long has cure for cancer that is not as devastating as chemotheraphy.
The reason why i question christian faith in miracles, because few months ago one particular christian here did the same to Chinese mediums and healers.
You can check out the topic.
yes miracles happen everywhere... its not unique to the Christian church. i didn't claim that in any case.
anyway .. there's more to faith than miracles. -
So the cure can be attributed to the chinese herbs. A miracle has no explanation. So the two are different.Originally posted by laurence82:Would you believe it if i tell u TCM cures my fren's fren's dad of cancer? -
Which part?Originally posted by ben1xy:lol.. i knew this was gonna come out
yes miracles happen everywhere... its not unique to the Christian church. i didn't claim that in any case.
anyway .. there's more to faith than miracles.
Anyway, the idea many christians give me here, is that miracles are quiessential part of christianity... -
read ben's postOriginally posted by Icemoon:So the cure can be attributed to the chinese herbs. A miracle has no explanation. So the two are different. -
the part abt miracles.Originally posted by laurence82:Which part?
Anyway, the idea many christians give me here, is that miracles are quiessential part of christianity...