Quotes from the Quran on Jesus
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Peace be with you laurence, if you cannot see it, you cannot see it. Sigh....*shakes head*Originally posted by laurence82:they still dont get it
is anyone challneging the christian faith?
look at the replies that caution you not to over react, they didnt say u are wrong
you think sgforums belong to you isnt it? if you feel you have to defend your faith in this forum, i feel i have to defend the non believers against your flaming
dont use christian forum as your hiding place to commit those stuff you do...
Just remember this, JESUS LOVES YOU! I don't want to fight with you laurence. You can defend all you want. I just want you to know that JESUS loves you. That is all. How you take it from here, I leave that up to you.
I may have chosen the wrong way to get things across to you in your opinion, but the intention is always the same whether you can see it or not, it is not to condemn you to hell or anyone here for that matter, it is to tell you that HELL is real and it is a nasty place and that there is a guaranteed way you can get out of there.
I know, you are probably thinking that "yeah, now acting superior and all", but I am not superior to you in anyway. Just want you to know again, JESUS LOVES YOU. He died for you. He wants to make you His. God wants you, just as you are. God loves you. No conditions, no buts, nothing... and so do I, believe what you will. Take care and GOD Bless you. -
I am more to the pont. Having debating over issues with other peeps in other forums, i seriously dislike people using circuitous route to cover their flaws in their arguments, or lack of itOriginally posted by breytonhartge:Peace be with you laurence, if you cannot see it, you cannot see it. Sigh....*shakes head*
Just remember this, JESUS LOVES YOU! I don't want to fight with you laurence. You can defend all you want. I just want you to know that JESUS loves you. That is all. How you take it from here, I leave that up to you.
I may have chosen the wrong way to get things across to you in your opinion, but the intention is always the same whether you can see it or not, it is not to condemn you to hell or anyone here for that matter, it is to tell you that HELL is real and it is a nasty place and that there is a guaranteed way you can get out of there.
I know, you are probably thinking that "yeah, now acting superior and all", but I am not superior to you in anyway. Just want you to know again, JESUS LOVES YOU. He died for you. He wants to make you His. God wants you, just as you are. God loves you. No conditions, no buts, nothing... and so do I, believe what you will. Take care and GOD Bless you.
is the issue on whether jesus love me?
no, i dont believe 2000 years ago there is this person who died for our sins, and that there is this holy trinity
in fact, more than ever, if i have to be, i will be a jew, jesus to me is a false prophet
but these are not the bloody issue here!
the issue is you without provocation on the part of others, started to flame the topic starter on a very issue of closing and modding, no on christianity
even the mod acknowledged the point covering the issue of modding and deleting of topics
the issue lies with you condemning others to hell, saying you will go to heaven, when only god can make the final judgement
worse, you deny doing it, and then when slapped with evidence, choose to ignore it and saying things like you have the right to do so, according to bibles...
you accused me of playing double standards, when the issues i have with christians lie in them flaming other faiths on the basis of the bible, but did devil1976 do any thing like this to u guys? did he do anything, if that is provocate to u guys, on the basis of buddhism, atheism, hinduism or anything?
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This post is rather silly, and without connections to the issue in this topicOriginally posted by TrU PeAce (^0*)v:First of all, if this thread would continue, it would definetely raged war.
I need to disagree with some of you, " stating that I belongs to God" is not condemning others. It is the believe of one self.
If those said that some post are over reacted, wait till u see those regarding the issue regarding hungry ghost festivals. Words like " u christians again " " u stupid chrisitians ppl" .....so, look who's talking now.
Did we say " u stupid ppl again" no, stating that I belongs to God just reaffirmed the faith. As like " I believe in Buddha, and no one else" is this condeming or ...being harsh. i believe NOT
Please maintain peace, by playing your part. The world is dreadful enough. If we, consider the "educated" ppl in Singapore would argue over such issue, how can those who have lower education not become terrorist and defaming thier own religion. So PLEASE!!! slap urself and wake up.
Those guys in the topic you mentioned flame against the actions of the christians, not because of the reason you are in the faith.
You are the first one in that topic which chose to mull over the issue of people being sensitive to your faith, not to your people and actions, which give rises to such silly debate.
And i did mentioned, altho some people misjudged certain things on christianity, you die die want to pull in other faiths
I said many times, these people have not done that flaming on the basis on their faith. heck they didnt even mentioned anything more than what they seen christians did. there is nuthing to show the faith majority of these people belong to
i have made this point to you, up till now you still choose to assume these people are from other faiths, which you cant prove, and in the end, made silly arguments on other faiths. Thats why using analogy such as you dont see peopel condemning people who made the remarks they believe in buddha shows how shallow your argument is, and where your biasness lies.
In fact, i dont see anyone mentioned they believe in buddha, and i dont want to go deeper onto why people who are buddhists wont make such remarks, which actually makes me wonder where you got those remarks from
And i got bones to pick with your last para. Did you know that many terorrists in the world are scientists and degree holders? The Aum cult in Japan consist of a significant number of the brightest people in Japan, some armed with degrees from Tokyo U
So are the Muslims terorists, some who completed college in UK and US
So education plays a part? Being educated means you mustnt or wouldnt do certain things? Are you also telling me you are ostracising people of lower education?
sheesh -
Thats your opinion. You are actually thinking that phrase condemns your faith when it doesnt.Originally posted by breytonhartge:but what about what chronicles posted? By implication isn't that condemning my faith? To actually post that in EH is like us from EH going to a mosque or a muslim forum and telling the muslims that are there, that they have got it all wrong, get my meaning?
So other people can tell us what they think is wrong with the Christian faith, but the Christians cannot defend it? -
precisely my point, you guys take what I say to condemn you when I don't. It is your opinion of what I say...Originally posted by shade343:Thats your opinion. You are actually thinking that phrase condemns your faith when it doesnt.
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That is twisting words, something most christians atre good for.Originally posted by breytonhartge:precisely my point, you guys take what I say to condemn you when I don't. It is your opinion of what I say...
You done it and now you deny it? Sheesh... -
Got all wrong meh?Originally posted by breytonhartge:but what about what chronicles posted? By implication isn't that condemning my faith? To actually post that in EH is like us from EH going to a mosque or a muslim forum and telling the muslims that are there, that they have got it all wrong, get my meaning?
somewhere on the first page, you replied "Well, it is interesting to see that even in the quran, Jesus directs the worship and glory to the father, just as He has always done in the bible."
At least there is something you agree with right? So don't get so worked up lah.[/b] -
you have no idea of what you are saying if you want to be a jew... my wife is a jew.Originally posted by laurence82:in fact, more than ever, if i have to be, i will be a jew, jesus to me is a false prophet -
actually if she is a Jew .. then it goes that your child is also a Jew. OMGOriginally posted by breytonhartge:you have no idea of what you are saying if you want to be a jew... my wife is a jew.
Jewishness is passed down from the mother. -
U dont read things properly thats what i dont likeOriginally posted by breytonhartge:you have no idea of what you are saying if you want to be a jew... my wife is a jew.
Jews believe in Jesus? Sheesh... -
You read yesterday ST didnt u?Originally posted by Icemoon:actually if she is a Jew .. then it goes that your child is also a Jew. OMG
Jewishness is passed down from the mother.
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no sorry, not in singapore... yes my kids will be jews..Originally posted by laurence82:You read yesterday ST didnt u?
have you ever heard of messianic jews? the ones that believe in Jesus? -
Then i am not those....Originally posted by breytonhartge:no sorry, not in singapore... yes my kids will be jews..
have you ever heard of messianic jews? the ones that believe in Jesus? -
actually that is how Christianity started, it started with the Jewish people. What about Paul? who was a pharisee who initially persecuted the jewish believers of Christ? Who himself became a believer and was chosen by God to spread the word to the gentiles....?Originally posted by laurence82:U dont read things properly thats what i dont like
Jews believe in Jesus? Sheesh...
Even the jews do not regard Jesus as a false prophet... till today He is still regarded as a great rabbi. -
I mean Jews as in Judaism, not Jews who believe in christ starting from those daysOriginally posted by breytonhartge:actually that is how Christianity started, it started with the Jewish people. What about Paul? who was a pharisee who initially persecuted the jewish believers of Christ? Who himself became a believer and was chosen by God to spread the word to the gentiles....?
i dont believe jesus is a prophet anyway....even if i am a believer in god... -
okie... clarified.Originally posted by laurence82:I mean Jews as in Judaism, not Jews who believe in christ starting from those days
i dont believe jesus is a prophet anyway....even if i am a believer in god...
so what was written in the ST? -
Go read urself. Icemoon already mentioend the gist of the story.Originally posted by breytonhartge:okie... clarified.
so what was written in the ST? -
Don't you have to convert if you marry her? In Sex and the City, I remember one character converted to Judaism in order to marry her fiance who was of that faith. Even had a Jewish wedding ceremony. Prior to her wedding, she celebrated Christmas for the last time.Originally posted by breytonhartge:you have no idea of what you are saying if you want to be a jew... my wife is a jew. -
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In jewish tradition, the lineage passes through the wife not the man so I do not need to convert...Originally posted by iveco:Don't you have to convert if you marry her? In Sex and the City, I remember one character converted to Judaism in order to marry her fiance who was of that faith. Even had a Jewish wedding ceremony. Prior to her wedding, she celebrated Christmas for the last time. -
JESUS.H.CHRIST! I GAVE QUOTES SO THAT YOU PEOPLE CAN SEE THE MUSLIM STANDPOINT NOT TO FUCKIN FLAMEWARS!
This post was meant to give your opinions of what you think of the quotes not to racial/religon bash others and what quotes you think could be of relevance..
You all just so SENSITIVE lar -
Hi people, someone posted this in my Buddhist forum in the topic 'The Disbelievers':
The Koran
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The Disbelievers
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
[109.1] Say: O unbelievers!
[109.2] I do not serve that which you serve,
[109.3] Nor do you serve Him Whom I serve:
[109.4] Nor am I going to serve that which you serve,
[109.5] Nor are you going to serve Him Whom I serve:
[109.6] You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion.
Hopefully we can be respectful to each other. I believe Chronicles is also not here to start a 'Muslim vs Christian' war. I also believe most Muslims in Singapore do not convert Christians in Singapore. -
Which was what everyone been telling that someone...Originally posted by chronicles:JESUS.H.CHRIST! I GAVE QUOTES SO THAT YOU PEOPLE CAN SEE THE MUSLIM STANDPOINT NOT TO FUCKIN FLAMEWARS!
This post was meant to give your opinions of what you think of the quotes not to racial/religon bash others and what quotes you think could be of relevance..
You all just so SENSITIVE lar -
Originally posted by laurence82:Which was what everyone been telling that someone... wahahaha
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agree, neither does every one in the world. so many kinds of believers.Originally posted by breytonhartge:you don't post something like that and not expect a strong response from those who are christians... this is EH, not a muslim forum... right?