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SIS will be back in action in sept? thats what i tot i read from his last postsOriginally posted by RaTtY81:calling SIS to challenge him
Silly, mr brey is the one who throw the bibles at everyone, when challenged that some other peoplelare more learned, defended by saying theology doesnt matter..duhz -
PRECISELY... <Originally posted by breytonhartge:you can know all the theology in the world and be more widely read than me, but if you do not know Jesus (and accpet Him as your saviour ) and know The Living God personally, and are not guided by The Holy Spirit, your theology is in vain, it will be exactly like the pharisees in Jesus's day. They knew the law, but where did it get them when Jesus came? They killed the Messiah. They knew all about Him, but did not know Him and there is a very big difference.
much of theology is also flawed because they also do not have it in context. To have the full picture, one must know about Jewish oral tradition. Most theologians ignore this.> -
Dont laff liao, or he will go and cry again...pek chek...Originally posted by Devil1976:PRECISELY... <> -
This thread was open to address the issue of a certain thread being deleted.
1) Sillyme has already stepped out to contribute his input.
2) The debate here is getting out of hand and out of point. (no offence to anyone. Just wanna see this place more friendly)
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no need to pek chek leh, not good for you, keep cool, be at peace... I am not offended by what d1976 says... it is true, I need to be guided by the Holy Spirit everyday... sometimes I hear Him better than others depends on whether I can still my spirit or not.Originally posted by laurence82:Dont laff liao, or he will go and cry again...pek chek...
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Usually, i'l try to, but i place reason first, emotions second. If there is seriously sumething funny going on, dont blame others for stepping in and being assertive.Originally posted by Honeybunz:This thread was open to address the issue of a certain thread being deleted.
1) Sillyme has already stepped out to contribute his input.
2) The debate here is getting out of hand and out of point. (no offence to anyone. Just wanna see this place more friendly)
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You dont get it? Nvm....Originally posted by breytonhartge:no need to pek chek leh, not good for you, keep cool, be at peace... I am not offended by what d1976 says... it is true, I need to be guided by the Holy Spirit everyday... sometimes I hear Him better than others depends on whether I can still my spirit or not. -
nope sorry, not as deep as you.Originally posted by laurence82:You dont get it? Nvm.... 
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Haha. How do you come to such conclusion that those who knew about Him DID NOT know Him?Originally posted by breytonhartge:you can know all the theology in the world and be more widely read than me, but if you do not know Jesus (and accpet Him as your saviour ) and know The Living God personally, and are not guided by The Holy Spirit, your theology is in vain, it will be exactly like the pharisees in Jesus's day. They knew the law, but where did it get them when Jesus came? They killed the Messiah. They knew all about Him, but did not know Him and there is a very big difference.
much of theology is also flawed because they also do not have it in context. To have the full picture, one must know about Jewish oral tradition. Most theologians ignore this.
And those who accepted Jesus as saviour automatically knows God?
Too much assumptions. Statements are rather unsound.
Anyway to add on to your unsound comment. This is a misguided thought, only a super-christians would think this way.
Let me counter assume my version - which i think is more accurate.
Those who KNOW Him, delibrately want to just...KNOW about Him.
I thought i read somewhere regarding the highlighted, was it D.L Moody? or A.W Tozer? Good quote anyway.
Frankly i've seen friends around me who truly experience the encounter with the Holy Spirit and had their life changed. Maybe consider that as 'true conversion'?
Fervent and on fire. Then the next few years down the road. They forgot what they experienced with Him.
I suggest before you start with any of your Ideal messages of 'good news' and your defenses in this forum.
Other than looking at the scripture. Look closely at people around you and those who have fell.
God, in His time will call upon whoever He missed.
:icemoon: Calvinist camp? Heehee.
Give thought to the high turn over rate of Christianity conversion and Church leavers.
Your good-will to present on hell and salvation seem too arrogant for the non believers good.
What i will say is.
Don't be too sure of what you stand. You have zeal, but no discretion.
Highly insensitive. And with air of dominance. Which is unnecessary.
interesting quote by late Dr Tozer, 'We modern Christians are long on talk and short on conduct.'
If you're willing, it is best to meet up and clear any misunderstandings.
Pardon me for my 'knowledge' in theology, which is the 4 Spiritual Laws.
Pardon me that i do not 'see' God and His word as much as you do.
and Not 'KNOW' God like you DO.
I cannot say what you're doing is wrong. But there is definitely, a way which is 'Phil 4:8 whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is of good repute, if there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise, dwell on these things.
Win people over by Paul's way.
Apologies, i can't help quoting him.
Cos i think his quotes speaks clearer than you do.
"It is not what a man does that determines whether his work is sacred or secular, it is why he does it. The motive is everything."
The Pursuit of God - A.W Tozer
Has it ever occurred to you that one hundred pianos all tuned to the same fork are automatically tuned to each other? They are of one accord by being tuned, not to each other, but to another standard to which each one must individually bow. So one hundred worshippers meeting together, each one looking away to Christ, are in heart nearer to each other than they could possibly be were they to become "unity" conscious and turn their eyes away from God to strive for closer fellowship. Social religion is perfected when private religion is purified.
A.W. Tozer
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you want to discuss the Talmud and Midrash? you are welcome.Originally posted by breytonhartge:much of theology is also flawed because they also do not have it in context. To have the full picture, one must know about Jewish oral tradition. Most theologians ignore this. -
Haiya, reading Jon Edwards only you say until like that.Originally posted by Icemoon:breytonhartge, look who you are talking to first. Here is a forummer who have read more widely than you in theology. I'll think twice before giving that kind of reply to Mc2.
Chill it dude, or you were replying to laurence instead?
You read that book also than i got to worship you ah?
haha.
Still thinking if i should go back to Calvin and Arminius debate or not.
Always this enticing. Arghh
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Woah! Sharp and truly precise!Originally posted by laurence82:Dont laff liao, or he will go and cry again...pek chek...
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Like what i saw bear commented on other thread, education doesnt equal intelligence. Why wouldnt i want to be SIS and challenge on theology
a) laziness,
b) blatant url linking by most people here - i got issues with people using articles to prove their point, when it shows they dont have one in the first place, it shows lack of argument, and we wouldnt know if the article is true or not..
c) Character and aptitude goes a long way, its better than quoting the bibles to defned whatever sily actions people pointed out... -
i'm sure you read more than that right? Probably you read "Systematic Theology" liao .. hahaOriginally posted by M©+square:Haiya, reading Jon Edwards only you say until like that.
You read that book also than i got to worship you ah?
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Interestingly, the one, and you know who i mean, who is more learned shows greater character and aptitude in discerning stuff ard him...
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no need, my wife is a jew.Originally posted by Icemoon:you want to discuss the Talmud and Midrash? you are welcome. -
staunch?Originally posted by breytonhartge:no need, my wife is a jew.
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messianic jew. she knows and keeps all the traditions... if that is what you are asking...Originally posted by Icemoon:staunch?
interestingly you never convert. or she never convert?
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Too vague? Or i can't find or see him/her.Originally posted by laurence82:Interestingly, the one, and you know who i mean, who is more learned shows greater character and aptitude in discerning stuff ard him...
Rare it is. To see a good example here. -
_|_Originally posted by M©+square:Too vague? Or i can't find or see him/her.
Rare it is. To see a good example here. _|_
Dont be too shy lar.... -
You're not suppose to laugh....Originally posted by laurence82:You dont get it? Nvm.... -
This is a 'wake up call'... Obviously some of us still have problem picking it up... Which I personally think... Would ultimately do you more 'good' than to just deny its existence...?Originally posted by Honeybunz:This thread was open to address the issue of a certain thread being deleted.
1) Sillyme has already stepped out to contribute his input.
2) The debate here is getting out of hand and out of point. (no offence to anyone. Just wanna see this place more friendly)
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Sillyme...
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Thanks devil1976. Request approved
