Hmm...possible. But there is nothing wrong with that.Originally posted by Icemoon:Probably Dan Brown.
Are there any church or organisation in Singapore that prays to Mary Magdalene?Originally posted by F Bunta:There're many churches in France dedicated to her, as she's rumoured to have fled there during the prosecution.
if she is a saint .. it is permissible for Catholics to pray to her. Correct me if I'm wrong.Originally posted by shade343:Are there any church or organisation in Singapore that prays to Mary Magdalene?
i think she was canonisedOriginally posted by Icemoon:if she is a saint .. it is permissible for Catholics to pray to her. Correct me if I'm wrong.
what's "canonised"? i can't find it in the bible.Originally posted by ben1xy:i think she was canonised
You read before 'Canonization of Deities' aka Feng Shen Yan Yi? Yah .. something along that line.Originally posted by fandango:what's "canonised"? i can't find it in the bible.
laurence catholic too ah?Originally posted by laurence82:Dont mislead him leh...
Watched this Discovery program on Vatican, and the process of canonization
The process is quite arduous
And after that, a ceremony will be held to announce to the world the candidacy for saints.
Any relics of the beatified ones, be it a finger bone or personal artifact, is blessed, and these artifacts are then considered holy.
The particular show showed Pope John Paul II
Nope. But i do watch Discovery shows.Originally posted by ben1xy:laurence catholic too ah?
ahha .. good source of info eh!Originally posted by laurence82:Nope. But i do watch Discovery shows.
which reminds meOriginally posted by ben1xy:ahha .. good source of info eh!
i dunno abt Christians .. but the Eastern orthodox churches do have Saints. i think Anglicans have Saints too .. hmm ... not really sure thoughOriginally posted by laurence82:which reminds me
if fandango have never heard of canonization, and he doesnt seems to be a catholic, is canonization unique only to RC?
besides, some protestant churches do have saints isnt it? like anglican and st george?
I hope I'm not confusing everyone, but it is good to tell the truth - Protestants believe in saints (communion of saints) but not in the manner believed by the Catholics.Originally posted by laurence82:besides, some protestant churches do have saints isnt it? like anglican and st george?
hmm .. interesting .. the Saints are they the same ones canonised by the Catholic church?Originally posted by Icemoon:I hope I'm not confusing everyone, but it is good to tell the truth - Protestants believe in saints (communion of saints) but not in the manner believed by the Catholics.
CHAPTER XVII.
Of The Perseverance of the Saints.
I. They whom God hath accepted in his Beloved, effectually called and sanctified by his Spirit, can neither totally nor finally fall away from the state of grace; but shall certainly persevere therein to the end, and be eternally saved.
II. This perseverance of the saints depends, not upon their own free-will, but upon the immutability of the decree of election, flowing from the free and unchangeable love of God the Father; upon the efficacy of the merit and intercession of Jesus Christ; the abiding of the Spirit and of the seed of God within them; and the nature of the covenant of grace; from all which ariseth also the certainty and infallibility thereof.
III. Nevertheless they may, through the temptations of Satan and of the world, the prevelancy of corruption remaining in them, and the neglect of the means of their perseverance, fall into grievous sins; ad for a time continue therein: whereby they incur God's displeasure, and grieve his Holy Spirit; come to be deprived of some measure of their graces and comforts; have their hearts hardened, and their consciences wounded; hurt and scandalize others, and bring temporal judgments upon theselves.
i tot so...Originally posted by Icemoon:I hope I'm not confusing everyone, but it is good to tell the truth - Protestants believe in saints (communion of saints) but not in the manner believed by the Catholics.
Neither can you find the word "Trinity"Originally posted by fandango:what's "canonised"? i can't find it in the bible.
erm... nope different peopleOriginally posted by coffeeortea:pardon my stupidity.. dont catholics pray to mother mary?.. is virgin mary the same as mary magdalene?
Whats the point of canonization>? Its a man made title. No value in the eyes of God.Originally posted by laurence82:Dont mislead him leh...
Watched this Discovery program on Vatican, and the process of canonization
The process is quite arduous
And after that, a ceremony will be held to announce to the world the candidacy for saints.
Any relics of the beatified ones, be it a finger bone or personal artifact, is blessed, and these artifacts are then considered holy.
The particular show showed Pope John Paul II
Huh? what you mean?Originally posted by Honeybunz:Btw, why Mary Magdalene?