something to ask the christian frens here..
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easy. because you are like a complete brainwashed moron believing in something that will be your own demise which does not exists, and for crying out, you are actually believing you are saving the god dammed world and going to fictional heaven, and condamming everything that does not go your own arrogant and hypocritical ways.
MC square... read this... no misunderstanding... ito was rude! -
maybe i should have itallic out some parts of my post as assumed thoughts.Originally posted by M©+square:Do i read the word :Misunderstanding: here?
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Ur bad then.Originally posted by Ito_^:maybe i should have itallic out some parts of my post as assumed thoughts.
Now gotta clear the mess and freshen the air! -
thanks for clarifying... sorry to jump the gun too...
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Originally posted by breytonhartge:
unfortunately, these are the very thoughts that go through people who reject Christ. when people are pissed off, vulgarities are the minimal of all things.
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MC square... read this... no misunderstanding... ito was rude![/b]
you got to be prepared - to be cursed, to be flamed, to be accused, to be imprisoned or killed even, for many preachers and missonaries.
anyways, really pai seh, those are assumed thoughts and basically, what i would have thought if i didn't convert. -
Originally posted by breytonhartge:
What will happen to people who dont believe in christ?[/b]
I never condemned anyone... and Christians do not condemn anyone... maybe it is the unbelieve who feels condemned because he has sinned...
why are my ways any more arrogant than what you think...but what you say, you have already judged and condemned all of us "christians" so who is the arrogant one here?
if you are the anti-christ,[b] I would not want to be in your position come time when Jesus will return.... you don't know what you are in for... poor thing![/b] -
Originally posted by shade343:
easiest to answer, though not always agreeable. hell lor. go to hell lor, where else.
What will happen to people who dont believe in christ?[/b]
edit: cool, i noe how to use bolds too. and God bless you too, breytonhartge. -
no problem.Originally posted by breytonhartge:thanks for clarifying... sorry to jump the gun too... -
you really want to know? coz, it is not a good end, there are many references in the New testament about being thrown into the fire... which is Hell... for eternity... and you will spend an eternity outside of Gods presence...
to ito... no hard feelings.. sorry for the misunderstanding.. God bless... -
I don't know...Originally posted by Ito_^:unfortunately, these are the very thoughts that go through people who reject Christ. when people are pissed off, vulgarities are the minimal of all things.
you got to be prepared - to be cursed, to be flamed, to be accused, to be imprisoned or killed even, for many preachers and missonaries.
anyways, really pai seh, those are assumed thoughts and basically, what i would have thought if i didn't convert.
But i always thought the way to speaking the truth of God is the Great Awakening style.
Not by might, not by power. But by the Spirit. -
Is that a metaphor or what?Originally posted by breytonhartge:you really want to know? coz, it is not a good end, there are many references in the New testament about being thrown into the fire... which is Hell... for eternity... and you will spend an eternity outside of Gods presence...
to ito... no hard feelings.. sorry for the misunderstanding.. God bless... -
Christian influence, in the past, were hardly graceful. True people of God as they were, a few of them do carries a cloud of western cannons. This will be one of the many arguments put in by an atheist.Originally posted by M©+square:I don't know...
But i always thought the way to speaking the truth of God is the Great Awakening style.
Not by might, not by power. But by the Spirit.
Anyways, even now or some years back, some Christian preachers are still being prosecuted in China. Its wasn't beautiful, mostly released on fines by families. I remember reading on that last year, some Christian report on human rights.
Not sure on this Great Awakening though, some reivival thingie? I think that would be possible in a liberated or seemly liberated society. -
actually i have a qn abt christianity that i wanted to ask for a looong time..
wat happen to those who did a lot of bad things.. like rape, mass murder, etc. but repents and accepts christianity? where do they go? heaven?
.. n those who do a lot of good (like me..
) but dun believe in the christian God? where do they go? hell? -
nah, he was only trying to be polite. he meant literally hell. dats y its not agreeable by non-Christians.Originally posted by shade343:Is that a metaphor or what? -
interesting how you relate persecution and (not) beautiful.Originally posted by Ito_^:Christian influence, in the past, were hardly graceful. True people of God as they were, a few of them do carries a cloud of western cannons. This will be one of the many arguments put in by an atheist.
Anyways, even now or some years back, some Christian preachers are still being prosecuted in China. Its wasn't beautiful, mostly released on fines by families. I remember reading on that last year, some Christian report on human rights.
Not sure on this Great Awakening though, some reivival thingie? I think that would be possible in a liberated or seemly liberated society.
I'd not even imagine persecution as less then painful experience.
As a believer's point of view. It is a honour. -
Why do you think some people are born rich and some poor?Originally posted by k4korny:actually i have a qn abt christianity that i wanted to ask for a looong time..
wat happen to those who did a lot of bad things.. like rape, mass murder, etc. but repents and accepts christianity? where do they go? heaven?
.. n those who do a lot of good (like me.. ) but dun believe in the christian God? where do they go? hell?
Why do you think some people are born healthy and some are born disabled?
Why do you think some people die in their sleep healthy and happy while some other die of cancer or serious illness?
Why is there unequal birth and unequal death in this world?
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you said it in a nutshell.. hit the nail right on the head...but note repentance has to be real and sincere.... the bible says we are saved through faith in Christ and not through works...
to shade343, no metaphor... you go to hell if you do not believe... that is just the way it is... -
thanks ito... you put it nicer than I did....
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they go to heaven.Originally posted by k4korny:actually i have a qn abt christianity that i wanted to ask for a looong time..
wat happen to those who did a lot of bad things.. like rape, mass murder, etc. but repents and accepts christianity? where do they go? heaven?
.. n those who do a lot of good (like me.. ) but dun believe in the christian God? where do they go? hell?
and for you. to hell.
song boh.
salvation by works doesn't apply to orthadox Christianity. good works, are the fruits of salvation - aka if you're saved, you will naturally do good works, no need ask one, no need payments for doing good. thank you oso not really needed. just want to do good.
in fact, going to heaven is also a consequence of salvation. to the ideal Christian, he would probably dun care less but to serve and love God, in heaven or hell. this one my personal thought hor. and i am freaking nowhere close, not even a speck.
its the repent part dats messy.. we can't be sure if that guy really repented you know. how to see. thats why we are not the judge. lol. -
REd Alert!!!Originally posted by shade343:Why do you think some people are born rich and some poor?
Why do you think some people are born healthy and some are born disabled?
Why do you think some people die in their sleep healthy and happy while some other die of cancer or serious illness?
Why is there unequal birth and unequal death in this world? 
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Hmm...Im starting to wonder whether people misinteprete the meaning of "eternal life"....
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For me is, I'm not perfect, I've some bad experiences here and there (not related), why the hell would I want to be imprisoned, especially when the officials just want a damm bribe.Originally posted by M©+square:interesting how you relate persecution and (not) beautiful.
I'd not even imagine persecution as less then painful experience.
As a believer's point of view. It is a honour.
To me, its downright ugly. Can avoid, avoid la! Siao ding dong arh. -
Refer to my previous two question posted beforeOriginally posted by Ito_^:its the repent part dats messy.. we can't be sure if that guy really repented you know. how to see. thats why we are not the judge. lol.
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shade343,
go to this link...
http://www.rbc.org/ds/q0106/ -
that i have no idea. never interested in eternal life from day one, but by the Bible, even if we go to hell, we'll be staying there for all of eternity. dun think its nice though..Originally posted by shade343:Hmm...Im starting to wonder whether people misinteprete the meaning of "eternal life"....
honestly, a moral living person impresses me more than a moral dead ghost. this isn't very Christian-like la, but i guess this is one of the many hurdles ive to jump?