something to ask the christian frens here..
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Hi shade343,
yes I believe everything the bible says, otherwise I would not be a believer right?
They have done studies on the bible, and there are something like 2500 prophecies in the bible of which 2000 have already been fulfilled to the letter... scientists say that 10 to the power of 8 is an impossibility but when the researchers did the calculations for 2000 prophecies to be fulfilled they came up with 10 to the power of 50, with another 500 to go... still unfulfilled. How can you not say that the bible is false? Of every problem or event that will occur in life, the bible says that there is nothing new under the sun. Everything has been done already.
I believe what the bible says also because I see it happening in my own life. I know a God that loves me so much and cares for me so much that He sent His only son to die for me... so that I would be in Heaven. I am not saying this to "judge" other religions, I am just sharing how much it means to me to know that God (who seems so uncaring to most people out there) actually does care and does love us... if not for Gods hand on Singapore, we would have suffered the effects of the Tusnami as well.
As I know more of God, He reveals more of Himself to me, and His heart. IT cries for all of mankind... He does not bring disaster upon us, only the devil does.
The bible is the LIVING word of God and it is definitely living for me. I am passionate about God because I know hell to be real and I am fighting for every soul, I don't want anyone to end up there...we only have our time now...I know that for a fact and Jesus is coming again very soon. -
Religion is something to believe and do:
Attending religious services
Enrolling children in religious schools
Showing acts of kindness
Avoiding immorality
Believing in God
Having religious affiliation
Being baptized
Receiving communion
Studying doctrine
Reading the Scriptures
Offering prayers.
Celebrating religious events
Teaching religious classes
Giving aid to the poor
Singing in the choir
Being recognized as a godly person
Christ is Someone to know and trust:
Someone who is very near
Someone who has authority to help us
Someone who can forgive us
Someone who can declare us righteous
Someone who can set us apart for God
Someone who can bring God to us
Someone who can bring us to God
Someone who can include us in His will
Someone who can guide us
Someone who can teach us
Someone who can be our example
Someone who never leaves us all alone
Someone who can be trusted
Someone who can defend us
Someone who can intercede for us
Someone who can enable us
Someone who can respond to our emotions
Someone who can feel our pain
Someone who can give us joy
Someone who can give us peace
Someone who can give us hope
Someone who can give us love
Someone who has proven His love for us
Someone who has died for us
Someone who rose from the dead for us
Someone who can live His life through us
Someone who can take us all the way Home
Someone who can assure us of heaven -
In exchange for our trust in Him, Christ does many things for us that religion cannot do. For example:
He loves us (John 15:13; Rom. 8:35).
He brings us to God (1 Tim. 2:5).
He brings God to us (Col. 1:15).
He bought us for God (Eph. 1:7).
He defends us before God (1 John 2:1).
He declares us "not guilty" (Rom. 3:24; 5:1).
He reconciles us to God (2 Cor. 5:19).
He sets us apart for God (1 Cor. 1:30).
He gives us peace with God (Rom. 5:1).
He makes us acceptable to God (Eph. 1:6).
He forgives us (Eph. 1:7).
He frees us from bondage (Rom. 8;2).
He qualifies us for adoption (Eph. 1:5).
He makes us heirs of God (Eph. 1:11).
He gives us His Spirit (John 14:16-17).
He gives us a new focus (Col. 3:1-2).
He lives within us (Col. 1:27).
He brings us into God's family (John 1:12).
He intercedes for us (Rom. 8:34).
He rescues us from Satan's power (Col. 1:13).
He places us into God's kingdom (Col. 1:13).
He gives us eternal life (Rom. 6:23).
He shows us how to live (1 John 2:6). -
No wonder I lost my handphone.Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:The ten commandments say Thou shall not steal. Make your own judgement.
I forgot the law of Karma has taken effect. -
Gotcha!Originally posted by breytonhartge:i did not mean to preach, yes it is from the rock, I attend new creation church whenever I am back in Singapore... I AM NOT FROM CHC, I was confirmed in Wesley Methodist and have also attended St Andrews and Calvary.
Haha .. proves that I'm not sleeping whenever I am in the Rock auditorium. -
Oooh. Never been to one, but saw my secondary school classmate in CHC, he was from the Rock.Originally posted by Icemoon:Gotcha!
Haha .. proves that I'm not sleeping whenever I am in the Rock auditorium.
I was new at that time so the first thing I said "What the hell are you doing here?" and he replied, "What the Fuck are you doing here?". -
Ya lor. Play so much DOTA. See la.Originally posted by shade343:No wonder I lost my handphone. I forgot the law of Karma has taken effect. -
That is the one rule that many Christians refuse to comply, saying that these are not physical things so does not account as theft.Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:The ten commandments say Thou shall not steal. Make your own judgement.
I hear liao jiu LL. -
glad to know that you were awake...
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You ever been an atheist? It's easy to understand the mindset of one, if you were one. Its very understandable why he would be pissed.Originally posted by breytonhartge:actually earthling73, why do you care so much since you are an atheist? You have no religion so why are you so offended with me? -
It is wrong to steal your bible? You lost your precious book but a soul is won for Christ.Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:The ten commandments say Thou shall not steal. Make your own judgement.
I think God will be smiling in Heaven.
The defendant can claim in court, "I am hungry for God's word, but no $$ to buy a bible". -
The senior pastor's preaching during midweek service is always very interesting. I went a church in Boon Lay (wun mention names), their worship pales in comparison and preaching also not as good.Originally posted by breytonhartge:glad to know that you were awake... 
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And the accuser will say "Laws are laws, God's word are eternal and therefore, a theft has occured and should be banished into hell."Originally posted by Icemoon:It is wrong to steal your bible? You lost your precious book but a soul is won for Christ.
I think God will be smiling in Heaven.
The defendant can claim in court, "I am hungry for God's word, but no $$ to buy a bible".
And the defendant will say, "I am guilty as such, I am sorry, please forgive me for I have repent."
And therefore, as someone who repanted, he shall be saved.
Like dat lor. But there are other situations, for example, the defendant knew that he will repent and therefore he will be pardoned before he commited the crime, so with all intentions, he stole even knowing its a sin and already expecting himself to be pardoned with a gesture of repentance. In which he might or might not be true hearted, for he does not know.
If that is the case, the accuser will take that into account and condamm the person to hell. -
You ever been an atheist? It's easy to understand the mindset of one, if you were one. Its very understandable why he would be pissed.
sorry have never been one, please enlighten me on the mind of a man who does not care to know God.... or does not believe in the existence of God. -
Hmm...it's also in the bible. Read it?Originally posted by breytonhartge:sorry have never been one, please enlighten me on the mind of a man who does not care to know God.... or does not believe in the existence of God. -
yes, see romans... but what about a subjective opinion from ito? What is your take on it?
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Originally posted by breytonhartge:
what is your definition of eternal life?
In exchange for our trust in Him, Christ does many things for us that religion cannot do. For example:
He loves us (John 15:13; Rom. 8:35).
He brings us to God (1 Tim. 2:5).
He brings God to us (Col. 1:15).
He bought us for God (Eph. 1:7).
He defends us before God (1 John 2:1).
He declares us "not guilty" (Rom. 3:24; 5:1).
He reconciles us to God (2 Cor. 5:19).
He sets us apart for God (1 Cor. 1:30).
He gives us peace with God (Rom. 5:1).
He makes us acceptable to God (Eph. 1:6).
He forgives us (Eph. 1:7).
He frees us from bondage (Rom. 8;2).
He qualifies us for adoption (Eph. 1:5).
He makes us heirs of God (Eph. 1:11).
He gives us His Spirit (John 14:16-17).
He gives us a new focus (Col. 3:1-2).
He lives within us (Col. 1:27).
He brings us into God's family (John 1:12).
He intercedes for us (Rom. 8:34).
He rescues us from Satan's power (Col. 1:13).
He places us into God's kingdom (Col. 1:13).
[b]He gives us eternal life (Rom. 6:23).
He shows us how to live (1 John 2:6). [/b] -
living with God in heaven where there is no suffering, no lack, no wars, no wants, and there is peace and joy...
eternal life... the other half of our lives where our spirits will dwell on forever... -
I have only two question.Originally posted by breytonhartge:yes, see romans... but what about a subjective opinion from ito? What is your take on it?
Who is the accuser, the defendent and the judge? Who will decide, sin or not and heaven or hell?
I rest my case?
p.s quit biblical debates long time ago. -
easy. because you are like a complete brainwashed moron believing in something that will be your own demise which does not exists, and for crying out, you are actually believing you are saving the god dammed world and going to fictional heaven, and condamming everything that does not go your own arrogant and hypocritical ways.Originally posted by breytonhartge:yes, see romans... but what about a subjective opinion from ito? What is your take on it?
another one would be hating God because of some misfortunes, and seeing a Christian being so motivated and passionate, triggers that hatred and anger to be unleashed on you. ai wu qi wu, hen wu qi wu shi ye.
i was anti-Christ, so i know. -
God will be the judge, Jesus the son be the in your defence.. The accuser, this part I not sure liao. Satan? This topic must do some intensed reading liao, cannot anyhow say.Originally posted by M©+square:I have only two question.
Who is the accuser, the defendent and the judge? Who will decide, sin or not and heaven or hell?
I rest my case?
p.s quit biblical debates long time ago.
I know Satan is the accuser, but will he be available during judgement day or be defeated by that time? I suddenly really cannot remember.
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hey stop calling people names... and do not insult me, I never did it to you so respect my opinions... did I ever say you were a moron... that was rude and uncalled for... act like a civilised adult!
then what about the flip side, if Heaven and Hell are real and you decided that you did not believe in Jesus, then what?
I believe in God and Jesus because I know Him to be real... I started life going to a taoist temple ok? That did not work... none of the so called "gods" from there ever did anything for me... except cause me grief and pain... but Jesus turned my life around and gave me all I have today... He even healed me of my asthma, my bone problems and provided for me financially...
besides what qualifies you to say that I am brainwashed, if I am so are you... cause you stick to your guns as much as I do mine... besides I am passionate... NOT BRAINWASHED, -
I never condemned anyone... and Christians do not condemn anyone... maybe it is the unbelieve who feels condemned because he has sinned...
why are my ways any more arrogant than what you think...but what you say, you have already judged and condemned all of us "christians" so who is the arrogant one here? -
I never condemned anyone... and Christians do not condemn anyone... maybe it is the unbelieve who feels condemned because he has sinned...
why are my ways any more arrogant than what you think...but what you say, you have already judged and condemned all of us "christians" so who is the arrogant one here?
if you are the anti-christ, I would not want to be in your position come time when Jesus will return.... you don't know what you are in for... poor thing! -
Do i read the word :Misunderstanding: here?