The Criminalisation of Christianity
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u know wot? u people are simply bigots. one day you will get your deserved retributions. we will see who has the last laugh.
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relacs man
now its about some people persecuting christians, not homosexuality only.... -
i think they are going to heaven and enjoy.Originally posted by HENG@:u know wot? u people are simply bigots. one day you will get your deserved retributions. we will see who has the last laugh.
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Told you liao. Until you can give me a convincing explanation that homosexuality chances survival, you die die also must accept homosexuals are not "natural", literally. Come on, they violate the first principles of an organism - reproduction. And sexual preferences is geared for that, assuming genes come from male and female.
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Ok so its not natural. Doesn't change the fact that you are a bigot. -
this is not eternal hope man
this is eternal flaming forum.... -
u think? how come think only? not sure huh?Originally posted by Ito_^:i think they are going to heaven and enjoy.
bloody bigot. people like u are the cause of all misery in this world. -
Told you liao. Until you can give me a convincing explanation that homosexuality chances survival, you die die also must accept homosexuals are not "natural", literally. Come on, they violate the first principles of an organism - reproduction. And sexual preferences is geared for that, assuming genes come from male and female.
Well, there r people who had genes tat is programed to have cancer later in future. They still live. They also violate the first principle of an organism - not to die. Yet they r still here. The albinoes would unlikely to reproduce or live long as well, yet from the past till now we still see people having tis disorder. There is an element of randomness in reproducing, some more taller some shorter, some like women more while some like women less. If there is no such randomness, then we will see all brother looking exactly the same. Moreover some animals r really found to be homosexual, yet they r not extinct and surely they cannot reproduce. But tis is nevertheless a real fact.
Lets hear wat the experts got to say
http://allpsych.com/journal/homosexuality.html
http://www.utexas.edu/courses/bio301d/Topics/Gay/Text.html
http://wiki.cotch.net/index.php/The_gay_geneThe Bible is supposed to be read with the Holy Spirit's guidance
how do u know tat someone doesn't have the holy spirit to guide him when he read the bible how do u know u have it when u read it ? -
We are not arguing whether randomness exist in nature - it does and this is a fact.Originally posted by stupidissmart:If there is no such randomness, then we will see all brother looking exactly the same. Moreover some animals r really found to be homosexual, yet they r not extinct and surely they cannot reproduce. But tis is nevertheless a real fact.
In the animal kingdom, homosexual animals may not mean they cannot reproduce. For example, logically you can have a male frolicking another male, in the process the sperms are spilled, then a female comes into contact with the sperm and union with her eggs.
I'm not a homo, so I dunno how homo thinks and feels. Is it a case of less attracted to women or none at all? Can someone enlighten me? Thanks. -
Aiyoh .. dun be so judgemental can? Or you are no different from those xtians who condemn non believers to hellOriginally posted by lwflee:-----------
Ok so its not natural. Doesn't change the fact that you are a bigot.
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When is your one day? Maybe in the end it is ashes to ashes dust to dust .. no reincarnation no eternal life and of course no hell.Originally posted by HENG@:u know wot? u people are simply bigots. one day you will get your deserved retributions. we will see who has the last laugh. -
Homosexuality is accepted in Singapore, and our government has been eyeing the pink dollar for very long. There's even a Gay World in Geylang.
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especially people like u.Originally posted by HENG@:u think? how come think only? not sure huh?
bloody bigot. people like u are the cause of all misery in this world.
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We are not arguing whether randomness exist in nature - it does and this is a fact.
Therefore u can't deny tat some people may turn out to be homo even though they have straight parents or a history of straight parents.In the animal kingdom, homosexual animals may not mean they cannot reproduce. For example, logically you can have a male frolicking another male, in the process the sperms are spilled, then a female comes into contact with the sperm and union with her eggs.
I don't know how tat sounds to u but it sound totally incredible to me... 2 male species of animal have sex and the sperm flew all the way into a female ovary... and tis happen for all the homosexual species of tat animal... tat just sounds really incredible.... We should really need to study the homing capability of these sperm to flew against gravity, into the narrow tube of the female reproduction system and right into her ovary... Frankly I think the chances of a human inpregnating a female insect is more likely
I'm not a homo, so I dunno how homo thinks and feels. Is it a case of less attracted to women or none at all? Can someone enlighten me? Thanks.
Well, nobody says homo can't have sex with a woman They r also called bisexual...
Well, lets put it tis way, from a medical point of view it is true tat there is biological difference between homosexual and heterosexual. It is very hard to convince people tat nature has totally no effect on a person sexuality. There has been ton on debate on tis and frankly it seems difficult to reject tis -
When is your one day? Maybe in the end it is ashes to ashes dust to dust .. no reincarnation no eternal life and of course no hell
Tat depends much on your belief... if u a r taoist or some buddhist, they believe retribution will come to u when u r living. Tat one day is the day retribution arrives... but I guess ito should be safe... He has his right not to like a certain group of people... As long as he don't go and hurt or kill them lah -
Is this guy talking rubbish?Originally posted by F Takumi:Homosexuality is accepted in Singapore, and our government has been eyeing the pink dollar for very long. There's even a Gay World in Geylang. -
Homosexuals are allowed to work in the Singapore Government, but the then PM Goh himself said it doesnt mean homosexuality is wholly accepted.
I always wonder, did he make this statement when he discover some members of his Cabinet are kinked that way? -
Some years ago, then PM Goh invited some young Singaporeans to the Istana for a dinner cum sharing session. He asked us whether we have any objection to a divorcee in the cabinet. Of course everyone is agreeable.
Sometime ago I heard he asked the same question about homosexual. -
So you are saying homo is caused by genetic mutation machiam like radiation diseases?Originally posted by stupidissmart:Therefore u can't deny tat some people may turn out to be homo even though they have straight parents or a history of straight parents.I don't know how tat sounds to u but it sound totally incredible to me... 2 male species of animal have sex and the sperm flew all the way into a female ovary... and tis happen for all the homosexual species of tat animal...
I never said the two males had sex .. I just said they were frolicking each another. Do you need me to quote the dictionary to prove frolicking is not having sex?
The sperm never flew. It is something like bees picking up pollens. By the way, pollens are the male sex cells in plants.
In any case, the example is entirely ficticious but still a logically possible.Well, nobody says homo can't have sex with a woman They r also called bisexual...
Of course, if u have a dick, u can have sex with a woman. But it is unnatural right? Might as well go for ICSI or in vitro.
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What? You are a bigot. Who cares if homosexuality is natural or not? Ppl should be able to be a homosexual because they want to. They do not need'god', jesus, or someother bloke to forgive them.
You seem to confuse being natural as being good. Marijuana is natural. So is polygamy. And Smallpox. Antibiotics, Plastics, semi-conductors, synthetic fibres are not. Hell, fertilizers, the stuff that help keep the cost of food down, are not natural. Cars are not natural, neither are aeroplanes. What about concrete? What about spectacles? I could go on and on. Can you stop being selective?
I hope you are not representative of your church. I would hate to think that institutional bigotry is prevalent in singapore. -
Don't forget China. The Catholic community in China is forced underground, much to the chagrin of the Vatican.Originally posted by Dr Who:The US Supreme Court said kids canÂ’t pray in school. Then the Ten Commandments were ripped from the classrooms.
Pastors are being removed from their pulpits and put in jail for speaking out against homosexuality (Sweden).
In malaysia, Christian malays are put into jail.......
In Arabia and Pakistan, Christian converts are executed for converting.
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So you are saying homo is caused by genetic mutation machiam like radiation diseases?
No, I am saying your assumption tat gays must be borned from gay parents are wrong. Gays can be from straight parents.I never said the two males had sex .. I just said they were frolicking each another. Do you need me to quote the dictionary to prove frolicking is not having sex?
U really need to give me the definition of frolicking, and then tell me wat animals actually frolick to the point where the sperms will fly. THey r gonna use the hooves/flipers/claws or use their mouth to make the other party ejaculate ? Tis is discovery channel at its best ! Please explain to me.The sperm never flew. It is something like bees picking up pollens. By the way, pollens are the male sex cells in plants.
So u mean the female pick up the sperm and stuff it up to her ovary ? BTW I am not talking about plants here... A lot of plants r homo too BTWIn any case, the example is entirely ficticious but still a logically possible.
If the chances is so little it can be ignored. It still boils down to the point tat animals r homo, they do not die out which is another sign tat it is naturalOf course, if u have a dick, u can have sex with a woman. But it is unnatural right? Might as well go for ICSI or in vitro.
But wat r we to say tat having sex in the anal is unnatural since it can really be physically done and animals r doing it. There is nothing man made involved isn't it ?
U r not answering the question tat medically and biologically speaking homosexual is different from heterosexual. There r many studies tat show the brain structure from homo and hetero r different. Why don't u answer to tat ?Bisexuals are different from homos lah.
from a christian point of view wat is the diff ? They all sin in the same area isn't it ? BTW as said before, there is a sexuality test where people have varying degree of attraction to certain sex. It is not black and white as one either like girls totally or guys totally. There r in betweenYou seem to confuse being natural as being good
Natural means it is an act of god tat cause the person to be such. Yet god appears to condemn such people. Isn't tat punishing someone for an action u had done ? -
were u planning on telling your kids if u have any in future that the world is flat? or that the sun revolves around the earth? hey what other ignorance are u planning to teach them?Originally posted by Ito_^:especially people like u. -
If that is your point of view, so be it. Just like no point telling communists the wonders of capitalism .. haha Anyway, homosexuality may not be accepted by non xtians too, like our older generation. How about our Muslim friends? So please don't see it as an entirely xtian affair.Originally posted by lwflee:What? You are a bigot. Who cares if homosexuality is natural or not? Ppl should be able to be a homosexual because they want to. They do not need'god', jesus, or someother bloke to forgive them.I hope you are not representative of your church. I would hate to think that institutional bigotry is prevalent in singapore.
Don't belong to any church. -
What a waste. The efforts of the jesuits were wasted.Originally posted by iveco:Don't forget China. The Catholic community in China is forced underground, much to the chagrin of the Vatican.
But I think tourists are still able to worship? Read http://www.peking-travels.com/Christmas_mass_1.htm -
He will tell his kids the sun rises and sets. Stars rises and sets. Planets move among the stars.Originally posted by HENG@:were u planning on telling your kids if u have any in future that the world is flat? or that the sun revolves around the earth? hey what other ignorance are u planning to teach them?
The world is a big flat grid. Heck, all maps you see are like that. You play RTS games?
And electrons move around the nucleus machiam like solar system.