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Hi I stumble upon this site while doing some research and will like to know if anyone can help. I am a Catholic. I am about to be divorced on non-biblical grounds. As the Catholic Church prohibits such a divorce, I will be compelled to leave the Catholic Church. Are there any Protestant churches in Singapore that take a liberal view of divorce, and allow a Christian/Catholic who has divorced on non-biblical grounds to remarry in the church and not be regarded as a sinner beyond redemption? I was worshipping in a Baptist church in the East and was told very rudely that I was a sinner and would not be welcomed. Thank you.
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anglican i tink.king henry the 8 was a catholic and he wanted to remarry but the church wouldn't allow him to do so.so he broke off and started a new church which is the anglican church.if i didn't get my facts wrong
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first tym i heard of dis... so strict ah...
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While most churches (if not all) will view divorce as a sin, nonetheless, there are many churches that will welcome one such as yourself.Originally posted by jeromepaul:Hi I stumble upon this site while doing some research and will like to know if anyone can help. I am a Catholic. I am about to be divorced on non-biblical grounds. As the Catholic Church prohibits such a divorce, I will be compelled to leave the Catholic Church. Are there any Protestant churches in Singapore that take a liberal view of divorce, and allow a Christian/Catholic who has divorced on non-biblical grounds to remarry in the church and not be regarded as a sinner beyond redemption? I was worshipping in a Baptist church in the East and was told very rudely that I was a sinner and would not be welcomed. Thank you.
I am puzzled over the stance of that Baptist church that you had attended. I cannot see any Anglican or Methodist church pronounce a condemnation on you because of such a thing. If they do not welcome you because of this sin, then they should also chase away half their congregation.
I would suggest that you check out Anglican and Methodist churches, and if you are unsure of their stand, request to speak to the pastor-in-charge of these churches. He will be in the best position to advice you on their stand.
If a church does not welcome sinners, then I will question it's existence.
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Dear Sir,Originally posted by jeromepaul:Hi I stumble upon this site while doing some research and will like to know if anyone can help. I am a Catholic. I am about to be divorced on non-biblical grounds. As the Catholic Church prohibits such a divorce, I will be compelled to leave the Catholic Church. Are there any Protestant churches in Singapore that take a liberal view of divorce, and allow a Christian/Catholic who has divorced on non-biblical grounds to remarry in the church and not be regarded as a sinner beyond redemption? I was worshipping in a Baptist church in the East and was told very rudely that I was a sinner and would not be welcomed. Thank you.
please look for your parish priest.
P.S (Pray hard, if there's any hope that your marriage can be saved then better for all of you.) -
Sorry but I don't think "most" churches view divorce as a sin. In fact, in the New Testament I don't recall any reference to divorce being regarded a sin.Originally posted by Chin Eng:While most churches (if not all) will view divorce as a sin, nonetheless, there are many churches that will welcome one such as yourself.
I am puzzled over the stance of that Baptist church that you had attended. I cannot see any Anglican or Methodist church pronounce a condemnation on you because of such a thing. If they do not welcome you because of this sin, then they should also chase away half their congregation.
I would suggest that you check out Anglican and Methodist churches, and if you are unsure of their stand, request to speak to the pastor-in-charge of these churches. He will be in the best position to advice you on their stand.
If a church does not welcome sinners, then I will question it's existence.
Peace to you...
But yes, I agree that many protestant churches, not just the Anglican or Methodist, would not condemn anyone just because he or she is a divorcee. This does not diminish the sanctity of marriage, but people do make mistakes and with God, there is forgiveness and grace. And in any divorce situation, I feel it is not up to us to judge, hence there is no condemnation, if there is repentence, where necessary.
Haha...and a resounding yes to the point about any church not welcoming sinners, they better dun exist!...and amen to that! -
Give Thanks, welcome to sgforums and eternal hope.
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Hmm..dunno much about this.
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Marriage is a sacred institution in the eyes of the Catholic Church, hence your dilema. What you should do is confess to all your sins and carry on praying for your redemption regardless whether you remarry or not. God is all merciful, pray that our Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit will help you reunite with God in your sufferings and sins, and pray for the intercession of our most holy Mother.
Pray for redemption always, and the inner peace of knowing you have it.
Good luck and All the Best,
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Don't know the grounds for divorce in your case. In the Catholic church, you cannot divorce, but you can have an annulment of marriage if it can be shown that your marriage was not proper in the first place. Eg. if your wife is related to you or already married/divorced at the time and you didn't know...ok, sounds far-fetched.
The other way out is to wait until your wife leaves you and takes up with another man. The church (Catholic or Protestant) does not recognize legal divorce as a termination of the marriage bond:
He (Jesus) answered, "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. [Mark 10:11]
However, if she commits adultery first, some churches will allow divorce based on this teaching:
I (Jesus) tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery. [Matt 19:9] -
Sorry but I don't think "most" churches view divorce as a sin. In fact, in the New Testament I don't recall any reference to divorce being regarded a sin.
Huh....you sure you reading from the same Bible? See my earlier post and quotations from Matt and Mark. -
Erm, if I never remembered wrongly, I think I've heard my mother, a very devout catholic speak about variations in bibles, that is that the protestants (and the sub groups) each have their own version, while we Catholics have THE bible. Hope this is not offensive to anyone, and definitely was not intended.
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Henry VIII tried to seek an annulment from the Pope on the grounds that his wife, Catherine of Aragon was already married to his brother, Arthur, who had died. But the marriage was perfectly kosher....at the time Henry married Catherine, she was single and of course the annulment was denied.Originally posted by stellazio:anglican i tink.king henry the 8 was a catholic and he wanted to remarry but the church wouldn't allow him to do so.so he broke off and started a new church which is the anglican church.if i didn't get my facts wrong
Actually Henry VIII probably would have been better off with Catherine than his other 5 wives. Only 'fault' of Catherine was that she could not give him a son, only two daughters. However, Henry's retribution came when after 6 wives (two of whom he beheaded) and a break from the Catholic church, he still had no male heir and his daughters ascended to the throne one after the other...as Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeth I. -
Yes, for a long time Catholics used the Latin Vulgate translated by St Jerome...but you will still find the New Testament versus in your Bible. The Catholic Bible includes several books of the Apocrypha, which was included in the first publication of the King James Bible in 1611, but was later moved to the back of the Bible as an appendix and then dropped altogether.Originally posted by supafatty:Erm, if I never remembered wrongly, I think I've heard my mother, a very devout catholic speak about variations in bibles, that is that the protestants (and the sub groups) each have their own version, while we Catholics have THE bible. Hope this is not offensive to anyone, and definitely was not intended.
Pastors in Protestant bible colleges still read parts of the Apocrypha...it's not considered to be divinely inspired like the canon but still considered to be 'edifying' literature. -
Taking it out of context is a disaster. Oxford mushroom, i think u should study the history of the new testament carefully b4 stating these.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:He (Jesus) answered, "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. [Mark 10:11]
However, if she commits adultery first, some churches will allow divorce based on this teaching:
I (Jesus) tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery. [Matt 19:9]
i suggest the thread starter be clear of where he stands as a christian. Ultimately, christianity is not a religion, its a relationship with God.
Divorcing whether on any grounds, is still a divorce. but think about the consequence of divorce. is it gonna make things better? is it gonna benefit both of you? is it gonna help u stand straight and confident before God?
Also, i tink Churches that ask its member to leave because of sin, is a church you should flee from. Rather den solving a problem, they wanted a problem-free church. den what is the church for? no church is perfect, and yet no man is perfect either. church come in place to help, not to escape.
Best way is to look for a church pastor, if not, a marriage counsellor in church. They will be able to (hopefully if they dun think like the 'drive out sinners' way) help u in many ways.
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Taking it out of context is a disaster
In what way is it out of ocntext? The verse in Matt is in simple English....the exception is on the grounds of adultery. Maybe you don't like what Jesus saud. -
Taking it out of context is a disaster
In what way is it out of ocntext? The verse in Matt is in simple English....the exception is on the grounds of adultery. Maybe you don't like what Jesus said
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the main thing here my brother is if you believe that Jesus died to save you from your sins and that you have confessed and believe you are saved... we are no longer in a time of law, we are under grace... there is no where in the bible that says that you won't be saved... adultery is a sin, but Jesus died to save you from your sins... Jesus is offering you GRACE so while adultery is a sin, it is not the unpardonable sin... and if Jesus says you are regarded as righteous you are... point... King David, remember his story, he committed murder and adultery and what did God say about him? God called him a man after my own heart... the key here is always repentance... God is gracious and willing to forgive and accept that forgiveness my brother and don't let satan lie to you any longer... Christians today are so eager to judge people who go through divorce and are very legalistic and have a holier than thou attitude, what ever happened to grace? Unless these other people have gone through a divorce, who then can say? Do not judge someone unless you have walked in his shoes.. and what did Jesus do with the woman who was caught in adultery when the people wanted to stone her? He said let him who has no sin cast the first stone.... we are all sinners and to God there is no big sin or small sin, sin is sin so guess what unless we rely on Christ as our sanctification, we are not clean at all... only Jesus make us sinless because He took our sins upon himself...
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moral of the story commit all the sins you like just embrace jesus before you face reckoningOriginally posted by breytonhartge:the main thing here my brother is if you believe that Jesus died to save you from your sins and that you have confessed and believe you are saved... we are no longer in a time of law, we are under grace... there is no where in the bible that says that you won't be saved... adultery is a sin, but Jesus died to save you from your sins... Jesus is offering you GRACE so while adultery is a sin, it is not the unpardonable sin... and if Jesus says you are regarded as righteous you are... point... King David, remember his story, he committed murder and adultery and what did God say about him? God called him a man after my own heart... the key here is always repentance... God is gracious and willing to forgive and accept that forgiveness my brother and don't let satan lie to you any longer... Christians today are so eager to judge people who go through divorce and are very legalistic and have a holier than thou attitude, what ever happened to grace? Unless these other people have gone through a divorce, who then can say? Do not judge someone unless you have walked in his shoes.. and what did Jesus do with the woman who was caught in adultery when the people wanted to stone her? He said let him who has no sin cast the first stone.... we are all sinners and to God there is no big sin or small sin, sin is sin so guess what unless we rely on Christ as our sanctification, we are not clean at all... only Jesus make us sinless because He took our sins upon himself...
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narrow minded... the thing is God sees your heart. If you are sincere, you will be forgiven, what do you take God to be? Do not test Him.
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What God has gathered, man shall not divide.
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I wonder how efficient is our Church's marriage tribunal with dealing out annulments..
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My friend's wife walked out on him. He filed for an annulment (ie. wrote to Vatican City) and waited for 11 years before the marriage was annulled by the church.Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:I wonder how efficient is our Church's marriage tribunal with dealing out annulments.. -
wah lao...Originally posted by Honeybunz:My friend's wife walked out on him. He filed for an annulment (ie. wrote to Vatican City) and waited for 11 years before the marriage was annulled by the church.
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he actually happy happy wait for the church so long? he should leave the church le the church so lousy oneOriginally posted by Honeybunz:My friend's wife walked out on him. He filed for an annulment (ie. wrote to Vatican City) and waited for 11 years before the marriage was annulled by the church.