Christian Politicians
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The Singapore parliament had, traditionally, been very open about the faith of the indvidual ministers. Note today's news report on MP Loh Meng See who expounded on the ills of gambling from his stance as a concern member of parliament who is a Christian. It speaks volumes about each members' personal opinion on a thorny topic.Originally posted by odysseus:In Aust. rarely do politicians proclaim their faith be it christian or other. For what reason I don't know.
If in S'pore one can proclaim their faith (whether it be christian {btw: christian to me is both protestant & RC}, buddhist, muslim, hindu or whatever) without fear of discrimination, ridicule or repercussion that to me marks a mature, tolerant, open society.
so how's the church hunting been going on??? -
vivian bala's for the casino.
in a passionate speech delivered to the general public, he rammed at critics of the casino, urging them to put pragmatism in the fore. calls himself a methodist -- someone who methodically adheres to biblical standards? well i don't see that during the whole casino debate.
and the strange thing is, even religious groups have taken on a secular stance, expressing support for the government's move to legalise a casino.
religion, which serves as a moral guideline for society, has clearly lost its role in politics. -
care to elaborate more on that?Originally posted by Deportivo:David Lim left the ministry because of his Christian faith.
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inside info. tell you must kill you.Originally posted by devoid05:care to elaborate more on that? -
it is important not to mix religion and politics.Originally posted by devoid05:vivian bala's for the casino.
in a passionate speech delivered to the general public, he rammed at critics of the casino, urging them to put pragmatism in the fore. calls himself a methodist -- someone who methodically adheres to biblical standards? well i don't see that during the whole casino debate.
and the strange thing is, even religious groups have taken on a secular stance, expressing support for the government's move to legalise a casino.
religion, which serves as a moral guideline for society, has clearly lost its role in politics. -
why?Originally posted by dragg:it is important not to mix religion and politics. -
Ours is a secular state.Originally posted by devoid05:why? -
because religion and politics dont mix.Originally posted by devoid05:why? -
That is only 'cos we are a secular state. Consider, as an example, the Vatican City.Originally posted by dragg:because religion and politics dont mix. -
Now I see why you left the Protestants.Originally posted by Honeybunz:Or is that line only for Catholics?
What has being a Catholic got to do with BG Yeo doing his job as a Minister? -
Well, that is so convincingOriginally posted by Icemoon:I have nothing against BG Yeo. In any case, I truly think that he is a great minister.
I am just pointing out an irony - given that he is a Catholic. Well, even the great LKY was against it in the beginning. -
Tango yankee.Originally posted by FrustMom:Well, that is so convincing -
Originally posted by FrustMom:Well, that is so convincing
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I guess in sg no big probs
however, in Australia and US, where they become more aware and sensitive to other religions, even Xmas celebration were kept to small scale
Last year, there was a big debate in Australia, where the city hall was skimpily decorated for Xmas
It was due to religious sensitivity, but some other citizens think otherwise...oh welll.... -
In some primary schools in Aust they are not allowed to sing Christmas carols - on the grounds that one religion shouldn't "force" their beliefs on others. bit sad huh? especially when you're dealing with young kids.Originally posted by laurence82:however, in Australia and US, where they become more aware and sensitive to other religions, even Xmas celebration were kept to small scale
Last year, there was a big debate in Australia, where the city hall was skimpily decorated for Xmas
It was due to religious sensitivity, but some other citizens think otherwise...oh welll....
Chin Eng - the church hunting's been a bit slow due to travel +++. Been to St Andrews Cathedral but seems that they are not strictly anglican anymore. Seems that a lot of churches here are more charismatic / contemporary rather than conservative / traditional. -
Can try bible presbyterian.Originally posted by odysseus:Seems that a lot of churches here are more charismatic / contemporary rather than conservative / traditional. -
can try fundamental baptist also.Originally posted by Icemoon:Can try bible presbyterian. -
I'm sure you can choose to attend their non contemporary services.Originally posted by odysseus:In some primary schools in Aust they are not allowed to sing Christmas carols - on the grounds that one religion shouldn't "force" their beliefs on others. bit sad huh? especially when you're dealing with young kids.
Chin Eng - the church hunting's been a bit slow due to travel +++. Been to St Andrews Cathedral but seems that they are not strictly anglican anymore. Seems that a lot of churches here are more charismatic / contemporary rather than conservative / traditional.
Wesley Methodist Church, for example, has both charismatic service (popular among the youngsters) and the traditional ones (who don't like charismatic ones). Both are held at different timings at the same venue. You can call up and find out when time is the traditional service. -
n why? care to elaborate more? thx.Originally posted by dragg:because religion and politics dont mix.
did you read an article in the ST today? it speaks of religion's increasing influence in politics... -
I certainly hope not. But I'll be watching Icemoon closely.Originally posted by Chin Eng:sisters.... m'am.... tai-tais...
please don't turn this into another RCs vs Protestants debate again.
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But still, they shouldn't mix.Originally posted by devoid05:did you read an article in the ST today? it speaks of religion's increasing influence in politics... -
I stand to gain nothing. I am not even a Protestant.Originally posted by FrustMom:I certainly hope not. But I'll be watching Icemoon closely.
If you see any remarks as being an attack on your faith, so be it. Can't be helped, you are just so so .. so so biased.
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Go and try their service for the eldery. Highest chance that such a service is traditional.Originally posted by Honeybunz:I'm sure you can choose to attend their non contemporary services.
Wesley Methodist Church, for example, has both charismatic service (popular among the youngsters) and the traditional ones (who don't like charismatic ones). -
Too ashame to admit. It's ok. I will pretend to believe you.Originally posted by Icemoon:I stand to gain nothing. I am not even a Protestant.
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I admit to be a theist. That's is about it. I participated in Christian events, including Catholic Sunday mass, weekday mass, even went Opus Dei at HMK, was acquainted with their director; I also attended Protestant Bible studies and read up/listen on theology in my free time.Originally posted by FrustMom:Too ashame to admit. It's ok. I will pretend to believe you.
I am not baptised or affliated with any church or christian organization.
You won't find me admitting before in this forum that I am a Protestant. Well, SIS still thinks I am a Jew .. haha