will a freethinker still go to heaven?
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if the freethinker isn't baptised but follows a religion can he still go to heaven? let's say for a catholic
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"Anybody who sincerely seeks the face of God will enter HIS kingdom"
Basically, catholics believe that as long as you are a good person, you do good deeds you will still obtain eternal life.
Of,course my explanation is shabby, so the more well informed, please elborate. -
how abt free thinker who has no religion at all ?
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Originally posted by plo30360:
This refers to all people regardless of religion.
As long as you are a good person, you do good deeds you will still obtain eternal life. -
Yessss of course!!!Originally posted by cutepixie:if the freethinker isn't baptised but follows a religion can he still go to heaven? let's say for a catholic -
a freethinker cannot be a catholic. wat r u really talking about ?
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I believe the topic starter is asking whether catholics believe people of other religions can go to heaven.
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Then the answer is very obvious.
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not that is not what i meant.Originally posted by plo30360:I believe the topic starter is asking whether catholics believe people of other religions can go to heaven.
what i was try to ask was if a free thinker follows the catholic religion but isnt baptised can he or she still go to heaven? -
You mean if a freethinker who follows the catholic way of life but isn't baptised, can that person go to heaven?Originally posted by cutepixie:not that is not what i meant.
what i was try to ask was if a free thinker follows the catholic religion but isnt baptised can he or she still go to heaven?
The answer is YES
As long as you are a good person and do good deeds and even if that freethinker does not follow the catholic way of life, anyone can go to heaven regardless of what religion you follow -
actually, the answer is bullshit.
rule of the game's pretty simple, you can't buy your way up to heaven, being good, or donating to charities or helping old ladies cross the road, won't get you a ticket to heaven. why? cause you don't know what is the passing mark.
how much good is good enough?
rule of the game: ticket to heaven is already bought for you, when Jesus, the son of God died for your sins, paid the price for all the banana nonsense you did. Only when you believe and receive this, then you pass.
what the hell is the catholic way of life? going to church? going to confession? if you don't believe in Jesus and only in Jesus, all that = bullshit
if going to church makes me a christian, then going to macdonald makes me a big mac. and if u believe u can be a freethinker and buy your way in by doing "good deeds" then u're a bigger big mac than i am.
not that we shouldn't do good, but doing good is after salvation, salvation is salvation, good works are good works, different issues, and shouldn't be brought together.
good works don't give u salvation, only Jesus can, but good works comes and counts after salvation, because God will reward u for every little nice mushy thing you do for others when u go to heaven after u get knocked down by a bus or smth. kidding abt the knocked down part.
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catholics don't really believe anyone goes to heaven, i think they believe even if u receive Jesus, u still hv to pay for your sins, in pugatory. Not that i believe that la. haha.
but u can buy ur way out of pugatory by donating to the church?
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dumbdumb lets start a sperate topic about your post, i'll go create one.
But, I do not want to hijack another topic in which our postings are not releavent. -
its relevant.Originally posted by plo30360:dumbdumb lets start a sperate topic about your post, i'll go create one.
But, I do not want to hijack another topic in which our postings are not releavent.
she is asking if a freethinker, who acts like a christian, gets to goto heaven,
and my answer is no, because you can't "act" like a christian, you can't play church and hope to buy your way into heaven. you can't do anything to make yourself look good, including baptism. because the bible said, all our good works are like filthy rags to God, not that He looks down on our works, but because it isn't good enough.
in the bible, the people came to believe and receive Jesus into their lives, before baptism. you have to believe b4 u baptise, or else its no diff to taking a dip in the swimming pool
Only by believing in Jesus gets u to heaven, no other way. u can't be a believer, and be a freethinker, its like being, hot and cold at the same time, its impossible, you either believe, or you don't. -
This is what she asked.
not that is not what i meant.
what i was try to ask was if a free thinker follows the catholic religion but isnt baptised can he or she still go to heaven?