[Hong Kong] Bus discussions / talks
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Originally posted by SBS3688Y:
Since tix are not issued for cash payment, how do the operators there check against underpayment of bus fares?
Firstly, most BCs there open one side of the door so passengers have to tap in on one reader and in HK, the fares are FIXED for most of routes[except for XH/expressway routes].
So how to cheat!?
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I find taking the Star Ferry from Tsim Sha Tsui to HK Island to be the best option and is rather cost effective. Fares for buses & MTR crossing over to HK Island are quite expensive. MTR is fast but overcrowded. Buses got stuck along the road along Cross Harbour Tunnel.Originally posted by Acx1688:
Western Harbour Tunnel hikes tolls <!-- headline-->
31-07-2010
<!-- content -->Tolls for the Western Harbour Tunnel will be going up this Sunday. The charges for private cars, taxis and minibuses will increase by HK$5. Motorcyclists will have to pay HK$1 more. But double-decker buses will have to pay an additional HK$13. The government said it had urged the tunnel company to consider public affordability and acceptance before hiking the tolls. A spokesman for the Coalition to Monitor Public Transport and Utilities, Richard Choi, said it was all the government's fault. <!-- content end -->
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Originally posted by SBS3688Y:
I find taking the Star Ferry from Tsim Sha Tsui to HK Island to be the best option and is rather cost effective. Fares for buses & MTR crossing over to HK Island are quite expensive. MTR is fast but overcrowded. Buses got stuck along the road along Cross Harbour Tunnel.
how about EHT? also the TKO line hehe....
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Originally posted by Acx1688:
Firstly, most BCs there open one side of the door so passengers have to tap in on one reader and in HK, the fares are FIXED for most of routes[except for XH/expressway routes].
So how to cheat!?
ACxNow I realise...
On the first night, I took a bus from Tsim Sha Tsui to Mong Kok and ended up paying quite a lot of money (ard HK$8-9+), prob because I chose a long distance route which just started. I didnt realise the cheapest route was only HK$4.40!
A couple of days later after taking a closer look at the various bus svcs and bus fares, I realised I got to compare the bus fares first to avoid overpaying (in cases where you are travelling short distance and there a few routes to choose). No wonder majority of people avoided certain routes for short trips and the one with the cheapest fare was the most crowded!
For the XH/expressway routes you mentioned, how do the fare system work since they are not fixed fares?
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Originally posted by SBS3688Y:
Now I realise...
On the first night, I took a bus from Tsim Sha Tsui to Mong Kok and ended up paying quite a lot of money (ard HK$8-9+), prob because I chose a long distance route which just started. I didnt realise the cheapest route was only HK$4.40!
A couple of days later after taking a closer look at the various bus svcs and bus fares, I realised I got to compare the bus fares first to avoid overpaying (in cases where you are travelling short distance and there a few routes to choose). No wonder majority of people avoided certain routes for short trips and the one with the cheapest fare was the most crowded!
For the XH/expressway routes you mentioned, how do the fare system work since they are not fixed fares?
As per what I know on certain routes like KMB53, the sectional fare is only applicable to cash paying passengers
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Originally posted by SBS3688Y:
Now I realise...
On the first night, I took a bus from Tsim Sha Tsui to Mong Kok and ended up paying quite a lot of money (ard HK$8-9+), prob because I chose a long distance route which just started. I didnt realise the cheapest route was only HK$4.40!
A couple of days later after taking a closer look at the various bus svcs and bus fares, I realised I got to compare the bus fares first to avoid overpaying (in cases where you are travelling short distance and there a few routes to choose). No wonder majority of people avoided certain routes for short trips and the one with the cheapest fare was the most crowded!
For the XH/expressway routes you mentioned, how do the fare system work since they are not fixed fares?
Ah TST to Mongkok, passengers will onli take 1,1A, 2 or 6,9 and not other rts...
Eg. pple in Admiralty goin to Causeway Bay will take 5,5X rather than XHT 962...
For XHT, eg rt.112 before the Harbour, it is HKD9.30, after harbour at Causeway Bay it's HKD5.70 all the way to North Point -
Drivers end 'ineffective' bus strike 11-08-2010
Bus drivers have suspended their industrial action after two days of strikes and a work-to-rule campaign which had little effect on commuters. Only a small number of drivers, from New World First Bus, took part in the strike. Some drivers with other companies were involved in the work-to-rule.
Four unions under the Confederation of Trade Unions said members would meet again later this month to decide whether to escalate their action in September. The drivers had been demanding a 2.2 percent pay rise, while management, while management have offered 1.8 percent.
Eugene Wong, a union organiser, said he admitted the action "had not been very effective". He added that the unions would hold a general assembly twoards the end of the month to work out common ground and then "go to the next stage".
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new way to pick up PIW?
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Tram company defends move to hike fares 13-08-2010
Hong Kong's tram operator has defended its decision to apply for a 25 percent increase in fares saying it needs the money to improve services as well as to enhance safety and reliability. This came as the company faces declining passenger numbers. It said without the fare increase, it would start to incur losses from next year. The company has applied to raise fares by HK$0.50 to HK$2.50 for adults, starting in November. Children will have to pay HK$0.30 cents more - a total of HK$1.30. Senior citizens will be spared for a year after which a HK$0.10 increase will be imposed. The company's Managing Director, Bruno Charrade, said trams would remain Hong Kong's cheapest transport mode even after the fare increase. But a spokesman for the Coalition to Monitor Public Transport and Utilities, Richard Tsoi, said it's not the right time to hike tram fares. He warned such a move could lead to similar increases by other transport operators.
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On the fare box onboard the bus, I noticed the bigger digital numbers indicate the fixed fare to pay when you board. How about the smaller digital numbers below? What does it indicate? Is it child/senior citizen fare?
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Originally posted by SBS3688Y:
On the fare box onboard the bus, I noticed the bigger digital numbers indicate the fixed fare to pay when you board. How about the smaller digital numbers below? What does it indicate? Is it child/senior citizen fare?
Yes, its the fare for both child/senior citizen fare. Child and Senior Citizen fare is half fare of the adult fare.
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Originally posted by SBS3688Y:
On the fare box onboard the bus, I noticed the bigger digital numbers indicate the fixed fare to pay when you board. How about the smaller digital numbers below? What does it indicate? Is it child/senior citizen fare?
Add on, the fare indicator will denote the lower fare[for XHT or long distance routes]the "trigger waypoint" has reached
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Originally posted by Acx1688:
Add on, the fare indicator will denote the lower fare[for XHT or long distance routes]the "trigger waypoint" has reached
Acx
don't mind pls elaborate more? -
Take for example CTB rt.90 from Ap Lei Chau Estate to Central
The last bus stop[Aberdeen Tunnel Toll Plaza] before the bus enters the Wong Chuk Hang Tunnel is HKD4.70
When the bus departs this bus stop, the BC will press a button on the console to reflect the new fare of HKD3.40[he will make sure no one taps the Octopus card]
Upon reaching his next bus stop[Lap Tak Lane, Morrison Hill Rd, Wan Chai], passengers going to Central Terminus will pay HKD3.40.
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Green design for West Kowloon Terminus 18-08-2010
The MTR Corporation's West Kowloon Terminus for the Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong Express Rail Link will be the first of it's kind in the city to feature special environmentally friendly designs. The 11 hectare terminus, to be completed in five years, will handle 100,000 passengers a day in 2016. -
Which Route in HK is currenly not a Wheelchair friendly? i know 51,53 & 71B is one of them lol
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Hi everybody in SgForums,I am HK resident,if anyone have question about HK buses,I can help you. I can update the new buses details in HK.
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Originally posted by Keung:
Hi everybody in SgForums,I am HK resident,if anyone have question about HK buses,I can help you. I can update the new buses details in HK.
lol look at mine above ur post -
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Originally posted by Keung:
Hi everybody in SgForums,I am HK resident,if anyone have question about HK buses,I can help you. I can update the new buses details in HK.
Keung,
Welcome to SGForums on buses!
please do introduce yourself to our family in the introductions thread!
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Originally posted by bus555:
Which Route in HK is currenly not a Wheelchair friendly? i know 51,53 & 71B is one of them lol
Would you be referring to Kowloon side or Hong Kong island side...
To update, most CTB routes are not WAB...
75,90,97 use VO3X -
Originally posted by Acx1688:
Would you be referring to Kowloon side or Hong Kong island side...
To update, most CTB routes are not WAB...
75,90,97 use VO3X
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South Island Line cost surges 55% 27-09-2010
The MTR Corporation says it expects the cost of building its South Island Line-East - which will run from Admiralty to Ap Lei Chau - to rise by 55 percent to over HK$10b. This is up from its original estimate of HK$7b in 2006. The company says the increase is due to the price of materials. Peter Leung, MTR South Island Line Design Manager, said the project will include several new designs including smaller viaducts. Mr Leung explained the viaducts have been changed to reduce the impact on residents in Aberdeen. -
HK trams to get HK$75m revamp 06-10-2010
Hong Kong Tramways has announced plans to spend HK$75-million to refurbish its tram fleet. Seating will be re-aligned on the lower deck to provide better passenger flow, and wooden seating restored to replace the existing plastic seats. To minimise disruption, the company plans to modify two trams a month, meaning it will take several years to update the entire fleet. Project manager Arsene Durand-Raucher said the aim was to improve comfort and convenience for passengers. The first modified trams will be in service early next year.
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Pledge to cut bus emissions 14-10-2010
There's been a pledge by the Chief Executive to tackle Hong Kong's very high air pollution. Donald Tsang said in his policy address that more would done to help reduce roadside levels. This includes making it mandatory for bus companies to switch to zero, or low-emission buses once new franchises are in place. A pilot scheme will also be launched next year to increase the ratio of low-emission buses running through busy districts such as Central and Causeway Bay.