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  • robertteh's Avatar
    4,307 posts since Jul '04
    • Premier Wen Jia Bao is truly the type of leader we should have for Singapore. He does not boast of his talents or leadership or world-class standard but humbly serve as servant of the people.

      There is no need for him to write a book to claim or boast about his leadership or abilities.

      People can see and when people respect him as true leaders. Even though China is a very large country and yet it is not suffering the kind of hypocrisy among the leaders as they go about their duties diligently not comparing with the or claiming to be the best in the world despite run-away success in many areas in recent years.

      We are a small country where people are being made to suffer all the problems to make the elite HYPO leaders look good internationally while many are suffering inside.

      The small nation is being divided because of lack of morality among leadership. This is not happening in China and it is getting stronger as a success as their people cooperated with their leaders in every way to improve their lives and standards. In our case we have to contend with many problems with constant denials by our leaders who insisted on their past success and glories with nothing done about complacency in NKF or Selamat or suffering of ordinary people.

      It is this sort of wisdom which is badly lacking in our government that citizens are made to suffer much problems. Yet the hypocritical or Hypo leaders we have are still so thick-skinned that they still keep insisting they are the best leaders who have the moral authority to expect respect from the people.

      Respect is to be earned not forced upon by claims or counter-insurgency postings by leaders as seen in this and many forums.

  • domonkassyu's Avatar
    1,133 posts since Sep '07
  • zenden9's Avatar
    862 posts since Nov '03
    • We claim as first class country cannot even matched commuinism China in terms of leadership..

      Ironic, isn't it?

       

      I urge all singaporean who show disaproval for present regime not to hang any sg flag during national day!

      Edited by zenden9 17 May `08, 9:33AM
  • zaxis's Avatar
    1,391 posts since Dec '04
  • reyes's Avatar
    1,500 posts since Feb '04
    • if u visit smaller province, you will know entrench corruption in china. dont judge china by shanghai, shenzhen, hangzhou, chengdu, beijing.

      but i support your view that singapore leaders are hypo.

       

  • robertteh's Avatar
    4,307 posts since Jul '04
    • Reyes,

      I accept your view that this covert corruptions are happening in China. Covert or Legalistic corruption is evil. However in our case legalistic tweaking of HYPO may be worse.

  • giggs011's Avatar
    60 posts since Mar '05
    • shanghai, shenzhen, hangzhou, chengdu, beijing.

       

      any province above is way larger than singapore loh and pple can manage them well...

      china is so large it cannot be expected that 1 man can make eliminate all corruptions.

      but if Wen ever caught those corrupted officials you can be sure they'll be dead.

       

      here? legal corruption who to catch...

       

       

       

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    Atobe's Avatar
    5,830 posts since Oct '02
    • History always judge the legacy of a man.

      China with her long years of history that dates back centuries have not seen any of its leaders write memoirs of themselves and of their times - even emperors with thousands of scribes have not passed any edicts to do so.

      Only those who need money or more publicity or recognition - will do so to satisfy their own vanity and imagined demands of public curiosity to their high profile personality.

      Sadly, for one who re-write history in his own autobiography, he has prevented the publication of similar memoirs from his political nemesis.

      ''Emissaries'' were sent to prevent the family members from publishing the memoirs of the late Devan Nair, and the late Dr Lee Siew Choh - both of whom had spent their last surviving years to document their own experiences of the political events of the 1950s through 1960s, and which would have contradicted LKY's memoirs of the same period.

      The survivors of these deceased Singaporean political personalities had received covert statements that publication of the memoirs would result in embroiling the survivors in litigations, and continuing the legacy of political struggle with the Powers of ONE.

      Edited by Atobe 17 May `08, 11:01AM
  • t_a_s's Avatar
    1,049 posts since May '05
    • China is more democratic than spore, moreover the leaders in china are more selfless, caring and not money minded.

  • Asian Aussie's Avatar
    46 posts since Apr '08
    • In another forum that has now been locked, SG is only giving 250K for relief aid. Gosh, that's tightass esp for a Christian country.

      SG has such a tightass, I don't know how shit passes.

      For the record, Australia is donating $25mill to Burma, plus $1mill to China so far. Not to mention the $1bill to Indo for the tsunami.

  • robertteh's Avatar
    4,307 posts since Jul '04
    • Because of billions of losses in playing big brothers in UBS and other world stage, all the hypocrisy about their supremacy of leadership and crystal ball gazing abilities has been exposed.

      Any more big pretence about their charitable spirit by the HYPO leaders will put them in a quandary.

      For damage control HYPO leaders have to lower their pretences and slow down throwing people’s monies for self-glory while people are deprived of subsistence due to their tight-assness.

      But do not worry Singaporeans are raising funds among themselves like in NKF to sincerely help victims of Myanmar or China disaster not for glory or political face but with true heart-felt sincerity.

  • purpledragon84's Avatar
    1,836 posts since Sep '07
    • Originally posted by Asian Aussie:

      In another forum that has now been locked, SG is only giving 250K for relief aid. Gosh, that's tightass esp for a Christian country.

      SG has such a tightass, I don't know how shit passes.

      For the record, Australia is donating $25mill to Burma, plus $1mill to China so far. Not to mention the $1bill to Indo for the tsunami.

      im quite sure there will be ppl who kaobei if singapore donates 20-30million to them..

  • bratpig's Avatar
    8,605 posts since Feb '03
    • Originally posted by Asian Aussie:

      In another forum that has now been locked, SG is only giving 250K for relief aid. Gosh, that's tightass esp for a Christian country.

      SG has such a tightass, I don't know how shit passes.

      For the record, Australia is donating $25mill to Burma, plus $1mill to China so far. Not to mention the $1bill to Indo for the tsunami.

      Sorry to correct you. But Singapore is not a Christian country. But we can't blame you. Due to bad marketing, we do not really have an identity.

      But I have to agree with you that SG is not really known to be generous donors under most circumstances.

      For tightass, the shit is usually circulated in the internal system. The shitty effect is mainly felt by the lower system.

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    Atobe's Avatar
    5,830 posts since Oct '02
    • China has a national treasury that is more then a few trillion dollars in size - will any further cash contribution from the Singapore Government be of any effect ?

      It is in terms of 'disaster relief expertise' and equipment that is more urgently needed now in China then the monetary help.

      China has also asked for such material help, and after 48 hours of delay had finally opened its doors to a selected few Asian countries to help in the recovery efforts.

      Towards the Indonesians, the Singapore Government had been more generous in direct cash aid, and even more in the material and humanitarian support delivered by the SAF.

      The amount spent on the Indonesians was far more generous then the amount spent directly for the benefit of the Singaporean aged and needy.

      Edited by Atobe 17 May `08, 12:16PM
  • reyes's Avatar
    1,500 posts since Feb '04
    • Legalistic corruption is evil. However in our case legalistic tweaking of HYPO may be worse

      that above statement is very true. i been telling my friends and family members about the dire states of singapore political situation. but frankly 7 out of 10 singaporeans i know, dont care a shit about politics.

      unless we get more opposition into the parliament, otherwise the legalitics corruption would not change.

  • Poh Ah Pak's Avatar
    3,401 posts since Aug '07
    • but frankly 7 out of 10 singaporeans i know, dont care a shit about politics.

      PAP likes that.

      Don't care about politics means I can do anything and no one cares!

      But also means a dead society and emigration!

      PAP the best!

       

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    FireIce's Avatar
    163,104 posts since Dec '99
    • wat u waiting for?
      have u gone done the papers to migrate to china now?

      i sarpok u leh!

      支持!

  • Poh Ah Pak's Avatar
    3,401 posts since Aug '07
    • When can Singapore be freed from this Lee Kuan Yew?

      When?

      When?

      When?

      Heaven, why you put this man Lee Kuan Yew in power for so long to make us suffer?

      50 years of Lee Kuan Yew is enough.

      It is time.

      Please.

  • Thongboy's Avatar
    985 posts since Jun '02
    • we can hold, jump LEFT or RIGHT:

                              LEFT: jump into shark infested water,
                              RIGHT: jump into hungry waiting lions
                              

      go left die, go right also die, so we hold our ground and suck thumb.

  • drawer's Avatar
    1,263 posts since May '04
    • Originally posted by bratpig:

      Sorry to correct you. But Singapore is not a Christian country. But we can't blame you. Due to bad marketing, we do not really have an identity.

      But I have to agree with you that SG is not really known to be generous donors under most circumstances.

      For tightass, the shit is usually circulated in the internal system. The shitty effect is mainly felt by the lower system.

      LOL.....i believe Lee Kuan Yew now got a tightass,his face look like cannot pass motion for many days,as if his shit is stucked in his buttock.^^

  • drawer's Avatar
    1,263 posts since May '04
    • @ the topic:i believe mainland China has to move forward to a democratic country sooner or later.Becoz China open up her doorstep n welcome investment has a short history.If i am not wrong,she open up her market during 1979,after the cultural revolution.

      China still has a long way to go of realising that Western democracy is more efficient than one-party dominating situation.They have to learn,self-reproaching,realise and implement democracy before they can go further in future.

  • Poh Ah Pak's Avatar
    3,401 posts since Aug '07
    • China should not follow western political models but develop democracy according to chinese conditions.

       

  • qlqq9's Avatar
    4,929 posts since Jul '07
    • I once heard the "live" speech of lky.  he reiterated that he wants his MPs to be respected by the people.   He refuses or is ignorant that respect is earned not deserved.   We the people of Singapore are not his and his MPs and ministers' employees, stop treating us like slaves and as if we owe them a living.

      It is lky, lhl, goh choke tong and all in pap that owe us a living, we feed them, we are their bosses.

  • Poh Ah Pak's Avatar
    3,401 posts since Aug '07
    • Lee Kuan Yew want me to respect him, that is impossible.

      I know too much shit about Lee Kuan Yew.

  • qlqq9's Avatar
    4,929 posts since Jul '07
    • Originally posted by Poh Ah Pak:

      Lee Kuan Yew want me to respect him, that is impossible.

      I know too much shit about Lee Kuan Yew.


      too much shit about him?   I also know shit abt him.   Just a matter of time he will reap what he sows.

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